2 Russian oligarchs were found dead one day apart alongside their wives and children, reports say

[Uncle Joe]

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Vladislav Avayev, the former vice president of Gazprombank, was found dead of a gunshot wound in his Moscow apartment on Monday, Russia's state-run Tass news agency reported.

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Investigators wrote in their statement that they are prioritizing a theory that Avayev shot his wife and daughter, and then himself.

More than 2,000 miles away, in Spain, another oligarch — Sergei Protosenya — was found hanged, with his wife and daughter stabbed to death, Spanish TV channel Telecinco reported. His body was found Tuesday, Spanish outlet El Punta Vui reported.

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Mossos D'Esquadra did not assign a motive, but according to El Punta Vui, a working theory for investigators is also that Protosenya killed his family before hanging himself.

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https://www.businessinsider.com/2-russian-oligarchs-found-dead-spain-moscow-reports-2022-4

Things that make you go hmmm.

[RockRaven]

1. Kind of like that Russian guy who was found dead of widespread blunt force trauma inside of

a locked hotel room, and ruled "natural causes" -- I can't remember the guy's name, but it was either in London or DC, IIRC.

[James48]

28. I remember. 2015. His name was Mikhail Lesin. Dead Russian.

And he was found in the DC hotel in DuPont circle in 2015.

I remember because I stayed in that exact hotel several times before.

Cause of death: blunt force trama, inside his locked hotel room. Go figure: blunt force injuries to his head, neck, arms, legs, abdomen. Ruled as “accidental death” .

Seriously.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/2015-death-of-former-putin-aide-at-dc-hotel-ruled-accidental-result-of-alcohol/2016/10/28/f5b2a63e-9d1f-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html

[zuul]

2. Sounds like Putin's handiwork.

[Sanity Claws]

3. Hit job but by whom?

Putin or the Russian mob? Plenty of overlap between the two but they are not entirely the same. I wouldn't be surprised if these particular oligarchs, apparently living overseas, had dealings with the Russian mob.

[Achilleaze]

4. Pure coincidence

[secondwind]

5. Marital discord, my azz.......

[rickford66]

6. Bottom line ... Spain has better gun control laws than Russia.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Was Layla playing in the background?

[PSPS]

8. "a working theory for investigators is ... that Protosenya killed his family before hanging himself"

Yeah, I guess it would be easier that way.

[DanieRains]

9. They Kill Your Family Too

The message.

[housecat]

10. So if the family is gone, who inherits? Putin?

[KPN]

11. Message sent.

[Chakaconcarne]

12. Might explain why Republicans march behind Putin so readily.

[bringthePaine]

13. so where was the Easter Bunny at the time? huh? guess nobody knows for sure...

[speak easy]

16. my money's on Wile E. Coyote

[Snoopy 7]

14. well, well now

a banker and energy owner, both things putin needs right now what a coinkydinky lol

[NQAS]

15. Or. . .

If they are being murdered, who's directing/doing the murdering? Putin and his army of assassins?

Ukrainian hit people?

Some other country's special forces?

Does this sort of stuff stir fear in others in the oligarchy? Are they next? Who's their enemy?

If not, how many dead would change their minds? Not two? Then three, four, more? Or is it who's highest on the oligarchy org chart?

[PatSeg]

17. Whoa!

[Hekate]

18. No second-story windows for them to jump out of after viciously beating themselves first?

That was popular for awhile.

[Peacetrain]

19. Reading what the Russians have done in Ukraine.. they probably killed the families in front of the

Oligarchs.. and then killed them and staged it to look like suicide

[Marcuse]

20. Actually quite subtle for a dictator. Kim Jong Un could have used anti aircraft artillery.

[C Moon]

21. And where will their fortunes go? Maybe putin's getting creative on how to bring more money in.

Knock off a couple of billionaires, problem solved for now.
They're like junkies getting their fix.

[IronLionZion]

22. Putin should just skip to his own bunker suicide

why drag this out any longer

[Raster]

26. Not only should Putler* off himself, he should invite his prominent supporters...

...in the U.S. to join him... you know solidarity and all that.

[bucolic_frolic]

23. I doubt either was a financial issue

"Oligarch over-indebted, insolvent" would be a big headline.

[KS Toronado]

24. This reeks of Putler believing there's a coup attempt afoot.

[70sEraVet]

27. Maybe just a 'preemptive strike' to make sure everyone gets the message.

[KS Toronado]

30. That could be it also!

Making sure everybody stays in line "or else". 70sEraVet here also Army 11B

[70sEraVet]

31. I was Navy, but Im proud of ALL of my Vet buddies, buddy.

[patphil]

25. Sounds like a power struggle building up in Russia.

I don't believe for a second that these were both murder/suicides.
It's gang warfare.
Which side were these guys on? The same sides or opposite sides?
Is Putin reacting to an attempted coup?
Stay tuned, probably more to come.

[progressoid]

29. Oligarchs or just rich assholes?

[LudwigPastorius]

32. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, without any evidence at all, that...

they were discussing moving against, or financing a move against, Putin.

It's a conspiracy theory, but not necessarily a nutty conspiracy theory.