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Sun Apr 24, 2022, 08:50 PM

Arrogant, incompetent and corrupt: war is shattering our delusions of the German elite

It is too early to say who will win the war in Ukraine, but one nation has already suffered a catastrophic loss of prestige: Germany. The political and business leaders of Europe’s biggest economy have not only failed to give Ukrainians the help they so desperately need, but in their dealings with Russia they have been exposed as at best naive - and at worst complicit.

This week the German leadership crisis deepened when Olaf Scholz, the Chancellor, claimed to be delivering on his promise to send arms to Ukraine — but was revealed by the tabloid Bild to have secretly refused every item of heavy equipment requested by Kyiv. After Scholz had crossed tanks and artillery off the list, an aid package said to be worth €1 billion (£836 million) had been reduced by more than two thirds.

Meanwhile Berlin has been stonewalling on sanctions, claiming that its industry and consumers cannot bear the pain of cutting off energy supplies from Russia. A decade ago, the Germans lectured Greeks and other southern Europeans about austerity, telling them that “an end with horror is better than a horror without end”. Now, as President Zelensky told German MPs a month ago, they care only about protecting their economy.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/04/24/arrogant-incompetent-corrupt-war-shattering-delusions-german/

https://web.archive.org/web/20220425002429/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/04/24/arrogant-incompetent-corrupt-war-shattering-delusions-german/

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Reply Arrogant, incompetent and corrupt: war is shattering our delusions of the German elite (Original post)
scipan Apr 2022 OP
Hoyt Apr 2022 #1
Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #2
I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #5
Skittles Apr 2022 #3
stopdiggin Apr 2022 #4
scipan Apr 2022 #6
Duppers Apr 2022 #7

Response to scipan (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2022, 08:52 PM

1. Will be a shame if this war fractures NATO.

 

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Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:00 PM

2. Well, it is the birthplace of Nazis

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:50 PM

5. Actually America

 

Beliefs about eugenics and stuff is what the nazis modeled thier horrific beliefs on.

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Response to scipan (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:10 PM

3. very disappointing

because I have long thought they have handled remembrance of the Holocaust well, not allowing revisionist history

now it seems like they are favoring fascism

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Response to scipan (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:51 PM

4. one part of this is quite understandable

and hardly unique to the Germans. And that is a strong desire not to crash and burn one's own economy - in an effort to 'penalize' another. German is not alone here. The other (stonewalling arms and aid) stems from a different set of ideals and considerations - and is (at least from afar) somewhat less defensible.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:39 AM

6. Yes I think you have summarized it well. It's a big country,

with a lot of assets. Why so stingy with their aid?

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Response to scipan (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:13 PM

7. Damn disappointing.



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