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10 key passages from Alito's draft opinion, which would overturn Roe v. Wade (Original Post) elleng May 2022 OP
Not a lawyer, but I found Aleto's thinking very stretched. Like a judge recently said about GOP Karadeniz May 2022 #1
a translation from the conservative bulls**T DonCoquixote May 2022 #2
Computers aren't mentioned in the Constitution, either slightlv May 2022 #8
Right(s)! HighFired49 May 2022 #13
Sammy The Bull strikes again! Dawson Leery May 2022 #3
I see this as using government to enforce a specific set of religious beliefs bucolic_frolic May 2022 #4
Absolutely! slightlv May 2022 #9
And the fallout is what's not in the Constitution, isn't. Period. bucolic_frolic May 2022 #12
Imagine the dumb ass who couldn't wear a mask because it was her body. onecaliberal May 2022 #5
This +1,000... fierywoman May 2022 #7
Only if she's a stupid Repug! N/T slightlv May 2022 #10
Wait until their daughter's start dying from illegal abortions. Because they will. onecaliberal May 2022 #11
Alito writing the decision means that it's likely 5-4 FBaggins May 2022 #6

Karadeniz

(24,759 posts)
1. Not a lawyer, but I found Aleto's thinking very stretched. Like a judge recently said about GOP
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:27 PM
May 2022

rationales for overturning the election, they're an insurrection in search of a legal basis...or something like that. The points made by Aleto read like legal reasoning for personal preference.

DonCoquixote

(13,976 posts)
2. a translation from the conservative bulls**T
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:29 PM
May 2022

"We therefore hold that the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion. Roe and Casey must be overruled, and the authority to regulate abortion must be returned to the people and their elected representatives.”

Translation: we want to empower churches, corporations to coerce weak state legislatures, which they can they can bribe,coerce, or use "second amendment" remedies of "lone Gunmen"

slightlv

(7,893 posts)
8. Computers aren't mentioned in the Constitution, either
Mon May 2, 2022, 10:29 PM
May 2022

Should we round them all up, throw them all to the bottom on the sea? Go back to pen and paper for all correspondence and transactions? In fact, I see no mention of electronics at all in the Constitution... mayhap all electronics are nothing more than sinful magic from the devil, himself. As a country, perhaps we should rid ourselves of these horrible contrivances, and go back to ink and quill and feathers as normal people do.

HighFired49

(509 posts)
13. Right(s)!
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:29 PM
May 2022

The Constitution also does not confer the right to medical care, nor to take prescription medicines (among a million others). I can see where this crap-headed thinking is headed. This decision will not only affect abortion rights. These fascists have thrown open the door for "conservative" state governments to make all sorts of laws that infringe on our un-enumerated rights, even more than they already have; like the freedom to travel, if the person is seeking an abortion in a state where it's legal. Shall we ask the Supreme Fascists about un-enumerated rights? IXth Amendment? What's that? Nah, we don't care bout that! We might lose everything that is not specifically enumerated with these fascists asses in place. What a mess.

bucolic_frolic

(55,631 posts)
4. I see this as using government to enforce a specific set of religious beliefs
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:32 PM
May 2022

I doubt this is about law, or judicial procedure. Are they examining every other law to see if they can overturn it? This is about religion. This ruling will enforce religious beliefs on the nation as a whole. The people who don't want to be forced to bake cakes for gay weddings because of their religious beliefs, or issue marriage licenses for LGBTQ couples for the same reasons, are now telling women what to do with their own bodies!

slightlv

(7,893 posts)
9. Absolutely!
Mon May 2, 2022, 10:40 PM
May 2022

This is what blows me away the most, that people don't see this and scream bloody murder about it. You cannot legislate morality, but they're damned determined they're going to do just that. Abortion now, contraception next. They'll be a whole domino set of knock-on effects that we've been thru before if you're my age. Credit out the window. If you've got a credit card in your name, that'll be cancelled. The car or house in your name? That'll have to be transferred to your husband, brother or father, or other male relative. If you still have a job, it'll be looked at closely to ensure that the child you don't yet have will not be harmed by whatever work you do. Entire categories of job opportunities were closed to us because of the theoretical harm it could do to an unwanted, undreamed-of fetus, regardless of whether or not you were of childbearing age. These were only some of the ways we were locked out of careers as women. The unnamed, unwanted fetus in the mind of some male, somewhere, held more importance than the living, breathing, active, thinking woman who stood right in front of you at that very moment. And THAT'S the world they're desperately trying to bring back into being, once again.

For years, they tried to get herbs off the market. They didn't know what they did, and they didn't know what women knew about those herbs. They especially didn't like herbs not in plastic pill form. They especially didn't like them in freeform, from the garden format. And that's one of the real reasons they didn't like midwives, and they didn't like women who called themselves herbalists or witches. There was knowledge there that they didn't have; and they didn't want to study to learn... and they didn't want anyone else to have that knowledge.

And so, we are among the next in line they'll be coming for. Not just us witches. No... anyone who doesn't adhere to the Christofascists line of belief. You can be a good Methodist. You can be a good Episcopalian. Hell, you can be a good Catholic. But you're not going to be good enough for them! You'll still be lumped in with the rest of us Witches and Muslims! You just watch...!

bucolic_frolic

(55,631 posts)
12. And the fallout is what's not in the Constitution, isn't. Period.
Tue May 3, 2022, 06:43 AM
May 2022

Environmental protection? Social Security? Regulations? Not in the Constitution. Maybe they respect laws Congress passes, or maybe they find a way around those too!

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
5. Imagine the dumb ass who couldn't wear a mask because it was her body.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:35 PM
May 2022

Is it still her body?

FBaggins

(28,714 posts)
6. Alito writing the decision means that it's likely 5-4
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:57 PM
May 2022

With Thomas assigning the pen it probably means that Robert’s is writing the dissent.

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