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appalachiablue

(41,189 posts)
Sat May 14, 2022, 05:58 PM May 2022

"I Battled COVID Last Week. I'm Triple Vaxxed & It Was Still Brutal" (Under 65, No Comorbidities)



- Daily Kos, May 13, 2022. - Edited.

A month or so ago, people stopped wearing masks. I was one of them. They basically said that the new variant is mild and if you are vaccinated, you will be fine. I attended an Alzheimer’s fundraiser and there were about 300 people in attendance. It was in a large tent. They had a full open bar and every twenty minutes they would bring in a new appetizer to eat.. It was a wonderful evening with live music. I had a great time. Two days later, my throat became really scratchy. Then it became one of the scratchiest throats I ever had. I tested for COVID with the home tests that President Biden sent everyone in the mail. I followed the instructions and waited 15 minutes. Positive. Oh no, I have COVID.

I started to really feel awful. I was exhausted, all my muscles ached. I had a fever, my skin was tingling like I had a thousand ants crawling on them. My eyes hurt. I would close them and it would seem like the lights were still on and there was a ceiling fan was spinning, blocking the light creating a strobe light effect. I couldn’t sleep. My body was fighting this disease and was acting like if I fell asleep that I would never wake up. I have a Fitbit and it says I got 59 minutes of sleep that night. My tingling skin turned into small rashes that looked like little patches of poison ivy. They did not itch but were super painful if you popped them. They mainly formed on my hand and ankles.

I was able to call my doctor and schedule a video visit. They would not let me come in since I was COVID positive. I explained my symptoms and inquired about being put on the new antiviral drug Paxlovid. He really hesitated and made it feel like this should only be given in extreme cases. He said the fact that I am under 65 without any co-morbidities that I was not a suitable candidate. So, he said that I would be fine. Drink lots of water but if I started to have trouble breathing, if I couldn’t keep any food down, or if my oxygen levels were constantly in the 80s, go immediately to the ER. Luckily, It never got to that. My lowest oxygen reading was 92. I really felt awful over the next couple of days. I really didn’t feel like eating anything and I was constantly nauseated.

I was very upset in that I got all my vaccines & I still got so sick. My booster was back in Nov. & I know the efficacy wanes after 3 months. More frustrating was a friend that was 88 years old tested positive around the same time & all he got was a mild cough. I was extremely happy that's all that happened to him because when you are 88, it can be deadly. It feels like the Omicron completely got around the vaccine. I most likely contracted the new variant BA2.12.1. I've read that it's better at evading detection & can have more severe symptoms than BA1 & BA2. I really believe this. If I could have prevented this by wearing a mask that night, I would have done that, no question. I believe this new variant is more evasive, stronger, goes deeper into the lungs & is highly, highly transmissible. Like measles transmissible. This is a warning that we need to keep masking & distancing. It’s not over & I really regret not taking it more seriously...

- More + 233 Comments,
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/13/2097858/-I-Battled-COVID-Last-Week-I-m-Triple-Vaxxed-And-It-Was-Still-Brutal
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Very happy to hear that you are on the other side of the active phase of COVID. Your experience vividly demonstrates that, as much as we all want to be done with COVID it is most certainly not done with us.
*In addition to taking personal precautions such as masking indoors with a high quality mask, please take a few minutes to call or email your Senators & Reps. to convey the urgency of the COVID funding package that is stalled in Congress. We really need an updated vaccine to better combat the newer, more vaccine evasive variants. Both Pfizer & Moderna are working on this with a view to launching them in the fall, but the US will be not be able to secure supply until the funding package is approved.
*Equally concerning, at current uptake rates, even the supply of existing vaccines will run out in around Sept. if new funding is not forthcoming.

* Let that sink in - by October 2022 (just as the fall/winter respiratory disease season kicks off), the US will have NO Federal COVID vaccine supply if the stalled funding package is not approved. With no vaccine supply and just about the entire vaccinated & boosted population being past the 6 month mark from their last dose, the US will be extremely exposed to a major COVID wave (potentially with high hospitalization & death rates) just in time for the midterm elections. If there is a major resurgence of COVID in Oct./Nov., a significant part of the electorate (with ample encouragement by the Republicans & the media) will blame the Dems since they are the party allegedly in power. Given the already precarious position inflation has put the Dems in, this additional negative factor would all but assure that the Republicans will win the House in November.

* Make your voice heard - Congress must pass the COVID funding package as matter of urgency both for the health of the country & to bolster the Dem’s ability to keep control of Congress in the rapidly approaching midterms.
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Get a second opinion. Chris Hayes of MSNBC also got Covid and he received Paxlovid. He is only in his 40s.
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Yes, that doctor seems complacent in the extreme.
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Maybe complacent, but my experience is that for some f*cking obtuse reason, some medical staff do not want to prescribe it.

My mother is 92, fully vaxxed and two boosters. She tested positive on Wed. evening. She lives in her own apt. in an independent living facility ($$$$) in Palm Beach County. Thursday morning I call the nurse practitioner(in charge since no doctor is currently on staff)and tell her my mother tested positive twice and is ill. The nurse refuses to prescribe Paxlovid: I ask why, and she tells me there isn’t any Paxlovid in Palm Beach County, and it might cause stomach upset; instead my mom should just suck on some cough drops. I tell her that having my mother in ICU is a much worse scenario than stomach upset AND that I have already called the CVS across the street from the facility and lo, the CVS has Paxlovid. After much wrangling and mild threats to escalate the situation to a higher authority, the nurse gives in and calls in a presciption for Paxlovid. After a day and a half of Paxlovid she is doing pretty well. Who knows without the anti-viral what state she would be in?
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There’s tons of Paxlovid all over the country because doctors are not prescribing it. It’s insane. That’s mail practice IMO.


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"I Battled COVID Last Week. I'm Triple Vaxxed & It Was Still Brutal" (Under 65, No Comorbidities) (Original Post) appalachiablue May 2022 OP
A study out of Denmark shows 3rd and 4th shots of Pfizer have very little effect after 3-4 wks PortTack May 2022 #1
I've read some of those new reports too & people's appalachiablue May 2022 #2
After reading this. I too, need to schedule my 2nd booster. I have been hesistant cause riversedge May 2022 #25
Similar situation, I've put off the 2nd Booster & also appalachiablue May 2022 #27
Well, I did the deed--I scheduled my 2nd booster for Wed. Hope others will riversedge May 2022 #30
I wonder how many people these morons pass the virus to Skittles May 2022 #3
Malpractice. ❤ littlemissmartypants May 2022 #4
Laz slipped a bit going out last Friday. Didn't wear his mask all the time. haele May 2022 #5
During my last doctor appointment a few months ago, wnylib May 2022 #6
I'd find a new Doc, wnylib. SergeStorms May 2022 #8
I am looking and have one in mind that wnylib May 2022 #10
Good! SergeStorms May 2022 #11
I'd fire her just for catching covid three times. Iggo May 2022 #17
My son is a Veterinarian Epidemiologist, mostly studying Chronic Wasting Disease dugog55 May 2022 #7
"in the near future there will be many unexpected deaths from people that had Covid" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #12
This Covid virus seems to have those batteries that never quit--name slips me. But I do riversedge May 2022 #26
I just got my 2nd Moderna booster this past Thursday (5/12/22). BumRushDaShow May 2022 #9
We got Delphinus May 2022 #13
Oddly enough BumRushDaShow May 2022 #16
I am still waiting for them to approve a second booster for everyone. StevieM May 2022 #20
I think with the case rates rising BumRushDaShow May 2022 #23
my oldest son and his wife got it barbtries May 2022 #14
I went to the pub for dinner about a month + ago, first post covid visit to any indoor restaurant yaesu May 2022 #15
One of my sisters and my nephew got that damn flu BumRushDaShow May 2022 #19
Yep, my sisters husband had the shot & he still got it along with her. nt yaesu May 2022 #22
All vaccines have "non takers." No one knows why Warpy May 2022 #18
Excellent post. I hope you will be OK. We don't know the effects of all these variants. It's Evolve Dammit May 2022 #21
I'm really sorry to hear that so many health care providers are evidently being buttheads about ShazzieB May 2022 #24
I was planning to enter a poker tournament today... With N95 mask even. Pluvious May 2022 #28
Good thinking Pluvious and take care! appalachiablue May 2022 #29

PortTack

(32,819 posts)
1. A study out of Denmark shows 3rd and 4th shots of Pfizer have very little effect after 3-4 wks
Sat May 14, 2022, 06:11 PM
May 2022

Against the omicron variants. I’m beginning to think I won’t get a second booster.

Will continue to wear my mask and not be in public anymore than I have to.

appalachiablue

(41,189 posts)
2. I've read some of those new reports too & people's
Sat May 14, 2022, 06:31 PM
May 2022

comments. Lately I've been diverted to other projects besides Covid updates. But after reviewing this newest material, I'll proceed with the 2nd Booster very soon. I realize protection wanes, but a 4th Booster can't hurt so I'll go for it. Continuing masking and social distancing as well. Take care.

riversedge

(70,420 posts)
25. After reading this. I too, need to schedule my 2nd booster. I have been hesistant cause
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:45 PM
May 2022

I got sick--chills, fever, fatigue for a few days with my first booster. [only sore arm with first two doses]. But I think I need to do this Monday. Been putting it off too long.

appalachiablue

(41,189 posts)
27. Similar situation, I've put off the 2nd Booster & also
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:59 PM
May 2022

had mild side effects from the 1st one - a sore arm & fatigue for 10 days, which is nothing in view of the big picture.

Now I'm motivated to get the 2nd booster and am glad this new material jolted me back into action after some burnout.

Good luck!

riversedge

(70,420 posts)
30. Well, I did the deed--I scheduled my 2nd booster for Wed. Hope others will
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:05 AM
May 2022

schedule also if they have not done so. I also convinced a cousin to do so.

Skittles

(153,261 posts)
3. I wonder how many people these morons pass the virus to
Sat May 14, 2022, 07:17 PM
May 2022

so sick of the selfish assholes who have quit masking

haele

(12,690 posts)
5. Laz slipped a bit going out last Friday. Didn't wear his mask all the time.
Sat May 14, 2022, 07:42 PM
May 2022

We both have COVID now and it's miserable. Not as bad as when we caught it January 2020, but still a miserable experience. Paxlevid is helpful - we don't feel like we're going to die of pneumonia like last time, but OMG, it causes a bitter aftertaste in the mouth.

Haele

wnylib

(21,732 posts)
6. During my last doctor appointment a few months ago,
Sat May 14, 2022, 07:57 PM
May 2022

my doctor informed me that she would not prescribe Paxlovid for me if I get covid because she did not think that I qualify for it. I am 72, have hypertension, asthma, a lifelong susceptibility to serious viral infections, and developed a long term, crippling after effect following viral bronchitis a few years back. It required 2 years of Prednisone and therapeutic exercises to recover mobility.

But the doc thinks that I don't qualify for Paxlovid if I get covid. And she did not understand why I wear an N95 when indoors. Says covid is no big deal because she has had it 3 times. She is half my age without my health issues.

Maybe her 3 bouts of covid have altered her brain activity.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
8. I'd find a new Doc, wnylib.
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:11 PM
May 2022

I know that's not an easy thing to do for many people, but if there's any chance of finding another Doc, do it.

Your Doctor's brain must have been scrambled during her many bouts of COVID.

We can't risk losing a single Democrat, especially one from western New York.

wnylib

(21,732 posts)
10. I am looking and have one in mind that
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:14 PM
May 2022

I need to call. Finding another doctor is not easy. Most are in large specialty practices. But I am determined to find one.

Iggo

(47,586 posts)
17. I'd fire her just for catching covid three times.
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:52 PM
May 2022

Can’t afford to be around repeat offenders.

But again, that’s me, not you. I honestly have no opinion on the relationship between you and your doctor.

dugog55

(296 posts)
7. My son is a Veterinarian Epidemiologist, mostly studying Chronic Wasting Disease
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:00 PM
May 2022

in deer and elk. As such, he reads a lot of literature about Covid. He is completely disgusted with the US approach to handling it, starting with Trumps' non-handling it until it was too late, and currently Biden's efforts along with the CDC. He says Americans may be tired of Covid and want to act like it is no longer here, but it is. Relaxing masking and other easy to attain preventive measures is just prolonging the pandemic. This is all being done to keep our economy in the black. But, Covid is not going anywhere. The human body can get Covid over and over again. It builds up some natural immunity, but not strong enough to repel it completely. A person can get Covid once and die. Others can get it several times and can only have mild symptoms, but the body can only take so much and it will kill you eventually.

There have been so many reports of 35-60 years old being released from a hospital stay with Covid, going home, and then dying of a stroke or heart attack, listed as not Covid related. But, those deaths are Covid related. It is a blood borne toxin that gets into every organ of your body. It will and can kill you. My son seems to think, and this is from literature he has read and forums he is a part of with medical professionals, that in the near future there will be many unexpected deaths from people that had Covid, even mild cases. It just takes longer to kill some people.

Wear masks, stay away from indoor crowds, and don't put yourself in a position where you compromise your own safety. Right now it is every man/woman for themselves. The government is too concerned with the stock market and keeping the economy rolling along. They are not giving out good information and not doing their best to keep us safe. Granted, they can't tackle people and give them the vaccine or force them to wear a mask, but they need to get true information out. They just held a moment of silence a couple of days to commemorate 1,000,000 million dead Americans. The Worldometer had us at one million over six weeks ago. Just a little fib to try and make it look like we are doing better. And Who thinks all Covid deaths around the world are very under counted and that the world total is 15,000,000, not 6.3 million.

Stay safe.

BumRushDaShow

(129,896 posts)
12. "in the near future there will be many unexpected deaths from people that had Covid"
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:32 PM
May 2022

The latest thing they seem to be finding with it now is that in some people, it seems to have triggered previously "dormant" viruses the person may have been exposed to, like Epstein-Barr, to suddenly reactivate.

And more recently, they are FINALLY taking a look of what they keep dubbing "a mysterious outbreak of Hepatitis in children" and a possible role of COVID-19 exposure, since it appears that most of the children who contracted the liver inflammation (some even needing transplants), were unvaccinated - mostly ineligible due to their age, and this "worldwide outbreak" started happening right in the midst of Omicron..

I.e., a COVID infection may be triggering an aggressive auto-immune response that causes the severe inflammation - in this case, in the liver.

Why COVID is a key suspect in severe hepatitis cases in kids worldwide

Lauren Pelley, Adam Miller · CBC News · Posted: May 14, 2022 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 9 hours ago



Unexplained severe acute hepatitis cases among children continue to emerge in Canada and around the world, and while health officials desperately search for a cause of the mysterious illness, researchers are pointing to a possible link to COVID-19. The World Health Organization (WHO) said Tuesday there are now at least 348 probable cases of severe acute hepatitis — or inflammation of the liver — in children under investigation worldwide, which aren't caused by the usual hepatitis viruses or any other clear source.

In Canada, more than a dozen possible cases have been reported across multiple provinces since the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) confirmed earlier this month that some cases of the severe liver disease were under investigation. While an early line of investigation from U.K. health officials emphasized possible links to adenovirus, a family of viruses typically known for causing mild cold or flu-like illness, global teams are also zeroing in on potential impacts from SARS-CoV-2, the virus behind COVID-19.

Research suggests possible link to COVID

A recent American case study published in the Journal of Pediatric Gastroenterology and Nutrition analyzed a previously healthy three-year-old girl who developed acute liver failure a few weeks after recovering from a mild COVID infection. "The patient had liver biopsy findings and blood testing consistent with a type of autoimmune hepatitis which may have been triggered by COVID infection," said Dr. Anna Peters, a pediatric gastroenterologist at the Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center.

Peters, the lead author on the study, said that while it was impossible to prove that COVID directly caused the liver disease in this case — it is possible the virus triggered an "abnormal immune response" that then attacked the liver. "I think it's important for physicians to be aware that this is a rare condition that may happen during or after COVID infection. It's important to check liver tests in patients who aren't improving as expected," she said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/severe-hepatitis-children-covid-suspect-1.6451267


It's just like early on with the wild-type COVID-19 and Alpha/Beta, where some children were experiencing what they dubbed as "MIS-C" (Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children) which was causing this same type of thing again - "inflammation".

riversedge

(70,420 posts)
26. This Covid virus seems to have those batteries that never quit--name slips me. But I do
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:51 PM
May 2022

realize it is serious and it is no joke.

BumRushDaShow

(129,896 posts)
9. I just got my 2nd Moderna booster this past Thursday (5/12/22).
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:12 PM
May 2022

That timing was just under 6 months from my original booster last 11/15/2021.

Some of the research I've seen published the past year has suggested that because the doses of Moderna were higher (by design) than PFizer, that this may be a contributor to Moderna's longer-lasting efficacy.

I.e., each dose of Pfizer's "regular" 2-dose series is 30 ug and each booster dose is the same 30ug, whereas each dose of Moderna's "regular" 2-dose series is 100ug each, and a "typical" booster dose (unless immuno-compromised) is 50ug (immuno-comprised would get a 100ug booster which would then be considered like a "3-dose series" ).

Am sorry to see posters in this thread dealing with this thing right now. It's just nightmarish to have to try to maneuver through a landmine not knowing how each step might impact you.

Thankfully many people where I venture are still masking (or have started masking again since the Philly Health Dept. recommended it last week because of course, the cases are back up again as are the hospitalizations, despite the bullshit media "shaming" of the city for trying to enforce mitigation).

BumRushDaShow

(129,896 posts)
16. Oddly enough
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:51 PM
May 2022

and I'll give it some time, I have not had any symptoms at all with this 2nd booster.

My original first dose resulted in a brief metallic taste in my mouth and some injection site pain. Then 3 days later I got shoulder ache, the lethargy and cold-like symptoms, and was down for the count much of that day.

The 2nd dose was much less of a reaction, with some longer-lasting arm pain and a little bit of fatigue the day after.

The first booster was nothing but a couple days of the injection site pain - actually lasting longer than the 1st/2nd dose ache.

And this last booster? Nada, not even any injection site twinge.

I think my body must have been like - WTF? This stuff yet AGAIN??????

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
20. I am still waiting for them to approve a second booster for everyone.
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:04 PM
May 2022

I received Pfizer for my primary vaccination and Moderna for my booster shot. Given that the booster of Moderna is only half a dose, I really want to get a second half dose. I would be a little less worried if I had gotten a full dose for my third shot, or if I had gotten Moderna for my first two.

If I can get another booster in June, then maybe the next shot given will be in December. They should have an Omicron-specific shot by then. If Novavax is approved by then, and if it is designed to combat Omicron, then I will probably go with that one. I like the idea of receiving an additional vaccine that works on a totally different principle.

BumRushDaShow

(129,896 posts)
23. I think with the case rates rising
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:22 PM
May 2022

(although not at the extreme trajectory as last winter but this time with quite a few break-throughs) they will probably recommend a 2nd booster for "everyone" (or actually adults 18+) fairly soon.

I expect that once they approve an EUA for the youngest children (possibly to happen in June), then they can do a more simplified announcement of dose recommendations across all of the age ranges (and perhaps even suggest waiting for closer to the fall to get it, ahead of any fall/winter wave).

barbtries

(28,817 posts)
14. my oldest son and his wife got it
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:40 PM
May 2022

they were vaxxed but not boosted, and it did kick their asses, sick for about 11 days. happily they did not require hospitalization and recovered fully. but yeah, they did get sick and it was miserable for them.

this virus is not done with us.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
15. I went to the pub for dinner about a month + ago, first post covid visit to any indoor restaurant
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:48 PM
May 2022

setting. At that time the case numbers were very low & I was fully vaxed so when asked to go at the last minute I said sure. No one was wearing masks & was very crowded. I enjoyed the on the lake setting, the company. Luckily I didn't catch covid. I would not do that now that cases are back up. Over Easter I skipped a big family gathering & everyone there got the flu & were sick for a few days. No, it wasn't food poisoning.

BumRushDaShow

(129,896 posts)
19. One of my sisters and my nephew got that damn flu
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:01 PM
May 2022

and both had gotten the flu shot too - that shot was a complete miss. I think it was an Influenza A.

It's almost summer, and flu is still spreading nationwide
It is the first time in decades that a flu season has peaked after March.


May 9, 2022, 7:07 PM EDT
By Erika Edwards and Joe Murphy

The United States is in the midst of late-season rise in flu, data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows, with nearly 1 in 10 positive tests reported at the mid-April peak. But even with that uptick, an NBC News analysis of 7 years CDC data shows that this year’s flu season is still far below pre-pandemic levels.

"We're on the late side of things," said Dr. Carrie Horn, the chief medical officer at National Jewish Health in Denver. "But they're not so high that we're saying that there's a flu epidemic." It will be the first time since 1982 that such an increase has occurred so late in the typical flu season, said Lynnette Brammer, the head of the CDC's domestic influenza surveillance team.

"We aren't used to thinking of flu in May, but it's definitely still out there," Brammer said, adding that it's possible rates could rise more this season. While this season has had far fewer cases than past seasons, the late-season uptick has brought positivity rates closer to where they would be at the end of a typical flu season.

So far this season, the CDC reported, there have been at least 5.7 million cases of flu and an estimated 59,000 hospitalizations. About 3,600 people have died, including 24 children.

(snip)

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/almost-summer-flu-still-spreading-nationwide-rcna27949

Warpy

(111,419 posts)
18. All vaccines have "non takers." No one knows why
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:54 PM
May 2022

because right now we're in the infancy of understanding our own genome.

I was a non taker to smallpox and measles. The latter excluded me from working in pediatrics. This is not a bad thing.

I had the two shots plus the original disease in March, 2020 and a super mild breakthrough case in December. If I'm not immune to the bastard by now, I'm not going to be.

Cases are going to happen. My breakthrough case was a pallid 3 day imitation of the original 2 week horror, so the vaccine worked as advertised for me.

My state's vax rate is now 88% and that helps One county has what is being described as a medium outbreak, their vax rate 50%.

We are never going to get to zero Covid. However, if you live in a low vax state, you know the drill: avoid crowds, mask indoors and encourage others to do so, also, wash your hands before you touch your face, and if you've been lucky enough to avoid the disease, get those boosters in addition to the two shots.

Evolve Dammit

(16,803 posts)
21. Excellent post. I hope you will be OK. We don't know the effects of all these variants. It's
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:09 PM
May 2022

not anywhere near over and will keep mutating. Keeping a positive outlook is tough. At least we know it is not a "Democratic hoax."

ShazzieB

(16,609 posts)
24. I'm really sorry to hear that so many health care providers are evidently being buttheads about
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:35 PM
May 2022

prescribing paxlovid.

But forewarned is forearms. If I or Mr. B ever get covid, I'll be ready to fight like our lives depend on it.

Pluvious

(4,333 posts)
28. I was planning to enter a poker tournament today... With N95 mask even.
Sun May 15, 2022, 12:43 PM
May 2022

This anecdotal story has changed my mind

Poor risk versus reward ratio

Thanks for sharing

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