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appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 03:52 PM Jun 2022

"Want Fewer Abortions? Regulate Penises, Not Wombs"




- "Want fewer abortions? Regulate dicks, not wombs. Suck on that, Alito." Daily Kos, June 1, 2022. - Ed.

One of the greatest disappointments of my adult life was coming to realize how stupid you can be and still sit on the US Supreme Court. Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett… These are not our best and brightest legal minds. But they are very good at knowing the right people. Alito’s “draft” opinion has so many factual, legal, and logical errors that it is an embarrassment. A dangerous, messy, embarrassment. You would think his clerks hate him and want to make him look bad.

Alito says abortion is not a deeply rooted right. Well, golly gee, women being in charge of their own personhood, was also not a deeply rooted right for quite some time there, Sammy boy.
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-- Of Course the Constitution Has Nothing to ay About Abortion. There is no mention of the procedure in a four-thousand-word document crafted by fifty-five men in 1787. This seems to be a surprise to Samuel Alito. By Jill Lepore

As it happens, there is also nothing at all in that document, which sets out fundamental law, about pregnancy, uteruses, vaginas, fetuses, placentas, menstrual blood, breasts, or breast milk. There is nothing in that document about women at all. Most consequentially, there is nothing in that document—or in the circumstances under which it was written—that suggests its authors imagined women as part of the political community embraced by the phrase “We the People.” ...Women are indeed missing from the Constitution. That’s a problem to remedy, not a precedent to honor…
Alito, shocked—shocked—to discover so little in the law books of the 1860s guaranteeing a right to abortion, has missed the point: hardly anything in the law books of the 1860s guaranteed women anything. Because, usually, they still weren’t persons. Nor, for that matter, were fetuses….
“The page of history teems with woman’s wrongs,” as the 19th cent. abolitionist Sarah Grimké once put it. It does not teem with women’s rights. To use a history of discrimination to deny people their constitutional rights is a perversion of logic and a betrayal of justice. www.newyorker.com/...https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-there-are-no-women-in-the-constitution
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Sammy channeled hateful Scalia’s haughtiness.

-- The Most Shocking Aspects of Alito’s Leaked Draft Opinion. By Dahlia Lithwick

I think it’s quite possible though, that Alito said, well, Brett and Amy are going to make me tone down some of this stuff, but I’ll put as much of it in as possible to make it more difficult for them to eliminate all of it. I will go all the way to fury mode and just deride Harry Blackmun as a partisan hack and a baby killer. I’ll just write off Anthony Kennedy as a pretentious doof, who had no idea what he was doing. I will completely disclaim these past justices, these past decisions, and hope that Brett and Amy don’t make me walk it back too much. slate.com/...https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/samuel-alitos-leaked-draft-opinion-is-shocking-in-tone-and-tenor.html

Not so quick, Sammy. For much of human history, women barely knew if they were pregnant before the quickening.

-- Alito's abortion history lesson in dispute. Some lawyers who support abortion rights said many states lacked criminal abortion restrictions until the mid-19th century and some banned it only when performed at a point later in a pregnancy - known as "quickening" - when the woman could feel the fetus move, usually at four to five months of gestation.
Tracy Thomas, a professor at the University of Akron School of Law in Ohio, said Alito selectively cited history as presented by anti-abortion activists...

Some experts who back abortion rights said it is irrelevant what state laws were on abortion more than 150 years ago. David Garrow, a legal historian, said lawyers on both sides of the abortion debate have disregarded the practical reality that the procedure was commonplace even in states where it was banned when the 14th Amendment was added and that criminal prosecutions were rare. "If you wanted to argue that abortion is deeply rooted in American history you don't argue about state statutes," Garrow said. "You argue about the evidence of demographic reality." www.reuters.com/...
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-justice-alitos-abortion-history-lesson-dispute-2022-05-06/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Docket%20-%20May%206%2C%202022&utm_term=DailyDocket-MailingList%20v2
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Alito meant that it hadn’t impacted HIS life.
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-- There's a Glaring Weakness in Justice Alito's Case Against Roe v. Wade...

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"Want Fewer Abortions? Regulate Penises, Not Wombs" (Original Post) appalachiablue Jun 2022 OP
I don't want fewer abortions qazplm135 Jun 2022 #1
Call it the sanctity of sperm. pwb Jun 2022 #2

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
1. I don't want fewer abortions
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 04:18 PM
Jun 2022

or to regulate anyone's private parts.

I get the calling out of the imbalance here, but the idea that we want fewer abortions just plays into the abortions are bad idea. They aren't.

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