Poland Establishes 'Terrifying' Pregnancy Register After Banning Almost All Abortions

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A new government database tracking people's pregnancies in Poland is sparking fears that medical data will be used to prosecute women who obtain abortion care in other countries or by getting abortion pills through the mail, and potentially to target women who have miscarriages. Health Minister Adam Niedzielski approved an ordinance last Friday expanding the kind of information that can be stored in a central database on patients, including allergies, blood type, and pregnancy status.

Tracking pregnancies in the country is necessary, Niedzielski claimed, so doctors know if a woman shouldn't receive certain medications or x-rays. But in a country that banned abortion care in almost all cases in 2020—with exceptions theoretically in the case of health risks to the pregnant woman or of a pregnancy that results from rape or incest—Parliament member Kamila Gasiuk-Pihowicz said Tuesday that the register would be used to "persecute and control Polish women."

"Polish women no longer get pregnant for fear of being forced to give birth in any situation. The reasons for fear have just arrived," said Agnieszka Dziemianowicz-Bąk, another left-wing lawmaker. "The pregnancy registry in a country with an almost complete ban on abortion is terrifying."

The register will make it more difficult for Polish women to get around the abortion ban by ordering medication to induce an abortion or to travel to other European countries for care, as many have since the law was passed, said journalist Elizabeth Schumacher.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/poland-establishes-terrifying-pregnancy-register-after-banning-almost-all-abortions

So if you are a Ukrainian woman who has been raped by Russian soldiers... try not to go to Poland.

[Irish_Dem]

1. Like Romania decades ago.

Orphanages full of discarded children, neglected, abused, fetal alcohol syndrome.

Due to draconian control of women.

[farmbo]

8. Romania under Ceausescu: the inspiration for modern GOP Women's Rights policy?

From "Postwar" by Tony Judt:

"Romanians, however, paid a terrible price for Ceauşescu's privileged status. In 1966, to increase the population—a traditional ‘Romanianist’ obsession—he prohibited abortion for women under forty with fewer than four children (in 1986 the age barrier was raised to forty-five). In 1984 the minimum marriage age for women was reduced to fifteen. Compulsory monthly medical examinations for all women of childbearing age were introduced to prevent abortions, which were permitted, if at all, only in the presence of a Party representative. Doctors in districts with a declining birth rate had their salaries cut.

The population did not increase, but the death rate from abortions far exceeded that of any other European country: as the only available form of birth control, illegal abortions were widely performed, often under the most appalling and dangerous conditions. Over the ensuing twenty-three years the 1966 law resulted in the death of at least ten thousand women. The real infant mortality rate was so high that after 1985 births were not officially recorded until a child had survived to its fourth week—the apotheosis of Communist control of knowledge. By the time Ceauşescu was overthrown the death rate of new-born babies was twenty-five per thousand and there were upward of 100,000 institutionalized children."

[Irish_Dem]

9. Notice the death rate of newborns.

Other countries with draconian reproductive control over women have the same high infant mortality rate.

I won't go into detail about what is happening to the infants as soon as they are born.

[Irish_Dem]

2. This is not just reproductive control. Controlling a woman's body impacts every aspect of her life.

Forced pregnancies impact women in many ways.

Education, income, employment, freedom, etc.

[keithbvadu2]

3. "So if you are a Ukrainian woman who has been raped by Russian soldiers... try not to go to Poland."

Would they be able to get an abortion in Russia?

Thousands of Ukrainians have been spirited away to Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Russia

Abortion in Russia is legal as an elective procedure up to the 12th week of pregnancy, and in special circumstances at later stages.[1]

[FakeNoose]

4. Maybe the Polish women should all get their tubes tied - problem solved

[Moostache]

6. Maybe they should start forced vasectomies for Polish men instead...

Or, forced abstinence for men...or best of all a paternal registry for every pregnancy and an immediate garnishment of wages to pay for the pregnancy needs and post-partum care for the baby and mother.

If women are going to be forced to serve as involuntary brood-mares, then men should start paying the financial price immediately as well.

[DBoon]

7. have the father register their DNA

so paternity and associated support can be established

[TheRealNorth]

5. Coming to a Red State near you.....

[marmar]

10. Coming to a North American country near you.

[keithbvadu2]

11. Abortion surveillance

Abortion surveillance

https://democraticunderground.com/1016324393