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Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:22 AM Jun 2022

The Evidence of the Jan. 6 Committee - WSJ Editorial

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Did the committee offer a damning look at President Trump’s scheme to stay in office after losing the 2020 election? Yes. Fresh video of the riot is a reminder that Jan. 6 was a brutal melee of fists and chemical sprays. “I was slipping in people’s blood,” said Capitol Police Officer Caroline Edwards. The footage is visceral, even if similar scenes were already on YouTube.

The committee did offer some new and ugly details. “Aware of the rioters’ chants to ‘hang Mike Pence, ’” Rep. Liz Cheney said, “the President responded with this sentiment: Quote, maybe our supporters have the right idea. Mike Pence, quote, deserves it.” Who is the source of that quotation? The committee didn’t say. Ms. Cheney also said that Mr. Trump gave no orders to the National Guard on Jan. 6 to aid the besieged police, even as Mr. Pence was calling in the cavalry from his post at the Capitol. “There were two or three calls with Vice President Pence,” said Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, in audio testimony. “He issued very explicit, very direct, unambiguous orders.” In effect, “get the Guard down here, put down this situation.”

So was Mr. Pence in fact giving orders to the military, while the President watched the riot on TV and abdicated his responsibility as Commander-in-Chief? This was reported by the press soon after the riot, citing anonymous officials. But it’s something else to hear it from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

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The committee appears to be trying to build a case of “seditious conspiracy” against Mr. Trump, but here the evidence isn’t persuasive. Ms. Cheney offered no evidence that Mr. Trump communicated directly with the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys, who were the vanguard of the assault on the Capitol. The President spread falsehoods about the election. He invited supporters to Washington on Jan. 6, tweeting on Dec. 19 that it “will be wild!” He riled up the crowd and urged it to march on the Capitol. After violence began, he dawdled instead of sending help. Mr. Trump bears responsibility for the mayhem. But inspiring followers to march is not the same as leading a criminal conspiracy.

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The person who owns Jan. 6 is Donald Trump. Remarkably, he seems to welcome this. “January 6th was not simply a protest,” he wrote Thursday on Truth Social, “it represented the greatest movement in the history of our Country to Make America Great Again.” Pity the people who went to Washington believing this nonsense, not least the more than 800 who have been charged with criminal offenses. Thursday’s hearing ended with video of rioters explaining their thinking, as their criminal charges flashed on the screen. “I did believe that the election was being stolen,” one man said, “and Trump asked us to come.” Mr. Trump betrayed his supporters by conning them on Jan. 6, and he is still doing it.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-evidence-of-the-jan-6-committee-donald-trump-2020-election-mike-pence-11654896141 (subscription)

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The Evidence of the Jan. 6 Committee - WSJ Editorial (Original Post) question everything Jun 2022 OP
They don't know where the quote about hanging Pence came from??? Bev54 Jun 2022 #1
WFT?!? SouthernDem4ever Jun 2022 #2
Il Padrino never directly talked with the hitmen, so there's no conspiracy Bucky Jun 2022 #4
They know there are more hearings and more evidence coming, right? tanyev Jun 2022 #3

Bev54

(10,028 posts)
1. They don't know where the quote about hanging Pence came from???
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:02 AM
Jun 2022

It has been widely reported that Meadows relayed that to more than one person who then went on to tell the 1/6 committee and it was confirmed by Meadows aide Cassidy Hutchinson.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
2. WFT?!?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 06:37 AM
Jun 2022

"Ms. Cheney offered no evidence that Mr. Trump communicated directly with the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys, who were the vanguard of the assault on the Capitol."

What about then he was talking directly to them on television?

WSJ editorial moron.

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
4. Il Padrino never directly talked with the hitmen, so there's no conspiracy
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jun 2022

Nixon never met with the Plumbers, so really there was never any Watergate conspiracy

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