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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:03 PM Jun 2022

Comment: Insurance required for cars; require for guns, too

By Jason Abaluck and Ian Ayres / Special To The Washington Post

A breakthrough on potential new gun regulations is welcome news, but the recently announced proposals from a bipartisan group of senators are striking in their narrowness. They include incentivizing states to pass more red-flag laws, improving background checks for buyers younger than 21 and widening the group of sellers required to register as federal firearms dealers. Better than nothing, these reforms nonetheless would address only a small fraction of the more than 45,000 gun deaths and 120,000 gun injuries that occur each year in the United States.

The modesty of the ideas on the table is a byproduct of intense polarization over gun rights, suggesting a need for new approaches. One possibility — long advocated by some economists — is to require gun owners to purchase liability insurance. This would create a several-hundred-billion-dollar incentive for insurers to find ways to reduce gun violence. Relative to other regulations, this requirement might even appeal to some gun rights advocates. The National Rifle Association wouldn’t support it, of course, but it might win support from conservatives looking for a market-based approach that wouldn’t have much impact on responsible gun owners.

Gun insurance would accomplish two goals: First, it would raise the cost of gun ownership for people whose firearms are deemed relatively more likely to be used in crimes (by themselves or others), based on an assessment of risk factors made by insurance companies. That would make those people less likely to obtain guns in the first place. Second, it would provide a strong financial incentive for gun owners to keep these weapons out of the hands of people who might commit crimes with them. Granted, mass shooters won’t be concerned about their future premiums; but many owners would take steps to ensure their weapons are well secured. And a 21-year-old with a history of violent behavior might find it much harder to obtain a gun if insurers insist that they pay premiums equal to several times the purchase price of a weapon. (Insurance would be a condition of ownership.)

The logic is analogous to that underpinning car insurance. If you drive a car, you may seriously damage another person’s property or even kill them. To discourage reckless driving, the law makes you legally liable should this happen. For most people, the potential liability exceeds their savings, which is why all 50 states require car owners to buy car insurance so payments can be made in the event of an accident.

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Comment: Insurance required for cars; require for guns, too (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
I totally agree. The pushback here I found: LakeArenal Jun 2022 #1
Yes IbogaProject Jun 2022 #2
A big fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2022 #3
Why wouldn't the NRA support it ? MichMan Jun 2022 #4
It's all bullshit. Nothing will change. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #5

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
1. I totally agree. The pushback here I found:
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

Gun ownership is Constitutional cars are not.

What about poor people?

Insurance companies will control us.


All those those obstacles are addressable in my opinion.

IbogaProject

(2,804 posts)
2. Yes
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jun 2022

I've been posting this suggestion for awhile. It makes sense. And it would force an accounting of the total costs of these "accidents", shootings, and Murders. Once the basic rule all guns and ammo require annual insurance, and the insurance needs to be paid for a full year or maybe more upfront before any other step on the purchase. maybe some carve outs for legitimate hunting clubs, where the hunting guns are locked up outside of target practice and hunting.

MichMan

(11,901 posts)
4. Why wouldn't the NRA support it ?
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jun 2022

They would certainly offer it to their members and make a nice profit from doing do.

Considering the large number of guns in this country compared to the number of claims that would need to be covered, I would imagine that the insurance would be very cheap.

How would the insurance requirements be enforced ?

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