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Mme. Defarge

(8,027 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:07 PM Jun 2022

Trump's Behavior on Jan. 6, Explained by Expert on Fascism

"But coups can take months or years to plan and this was a multi-pronged attempt to overthrow our democracy. It's worth reviewing that he tried so many things simultaneously. He had General Michael Flynn trying to have martial law or military intervention and he tried the trickery that happened with the Georgia Secretary of State. And when none of that worked, he went nuclear and did what autocrats have done in the past and used violence, summoned the people there to right this monstrous wrong on his behalf," she said.

Ben-Ghiat, a professor of Italian and history at New York University, is an expert on the "strongman", a figure that's central to her latest book "Strongmen—Mussolini to the present", which explores how illiberal leaders "use corruption, violence, propaganda, and machismo to stay in power." Donald Trump is in it, together with Russia's Vladimir Putin, Chile's Augusto Pinochet, Libya's Muammar Gaddafi, and Italy's Silvio Berlusconi.

"It's interesting, what came out recently, is Trump was trying to get to the Capitol on Jan. 6. He couldn't get there," Ben-Ghiat explained, talking to CNN's Jim Acosta.

"This is consistent, if you're having a coup and summoned everybody and you expect to be anointed as the head of a new illegitimate government, you have to be there. There's a phase in coups. They're violent, quick, and then you have the pronouncement of the new order. That's why he was trying to get there."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-behavior-jan-6-explained-expert-fascism-1714990

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Trump's Behavior on Jan. 6, Explained by Expert on Fascism (Original Post) Mme. Defarge Jun 2022 OP
I think it could also be explained by an expert on toddlers. TwilightZone Jun 2022 #1
Key, key, observation empedocles Jun 2022 #2
The Secret Service was in on it. Farmer-Rick Jun 2022 #3
He had to get to the Capitol Building to announce he would be remaining in power. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #4
He had the executive branch under control and Moscow Mitch gave him the supreme court Delmette2.0 Jun 2022 #5
Yes he had all three branches of government. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #6

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. Key, key, observation
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:14 PM
Jun 2022

"But coups can take months or years to plan and this was a multi-pronged attempt to overthrow our democracy. It's worth reviewing that he tried so many things simultaneously. . .

"This is consistent, if you're having a coup and summoned everybody and you expect to be anointed as the head of a new illegitimate government, you have to be there. There's a phase in coups. They're violent, quick, and then you have the pronouncement of the new order. That's why he was trying to get there."

[Great Committee work. Making it so graphically clear, about traitortrump furiously trying to get to the Capitol to . . . ]

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Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
3. The Secret Service was in on it.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:20 PM
Jun 2022

I've suspected them as traitors in waiting ever since JFK.

"On Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that the Secret Service was preparing a motorcade route on Jan. 6 for Trump to enter Congress with his supporters storming the Capitol to demand he stay in power." https://www.newsweek.com/trump-behavior-jan-6-explained-expert-fascism-1714990

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
5. He had the executive branch under control and Moscow Mitch gave him the supreme court
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:42 PM
Jun 2022

He just needed to be at the capitol to say he had control of the Legislature.

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