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andym

(5,441 posts)
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 02:24 PM Jul 2022

Finally Democrats (Newsom) attack DeSantis and GOP with a winning message on taking away freedoms

Gavin Newsom goes on the air against Ron DeSantis as political rivalry grows
By Edward-Isaac Dovere and Steve Contorno, CNN
Updated 12:15 PM ET, Sun July 3, 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/03/politics/gavin-newsom-ron-desantis-ad-2024/index.html

"....
Newsom now is going on the air against DeSantis in Florida -- with what he says is not the first ad of the 2024, or even the 2028, presidential race -- with the goal of trying to get Democrats to reclaim a sense of collective identity that could enable them to beat Trumpism in the long term.

--snip--

"It's Independence Day -- so let's talk about what's going on in America," Newsom says in the ad, standing in the California sun, tieless, as "America the Beautiful" fingerpicks in the background. "Freedom is under attack in your state."

Those last words flash across the screen in red, followed by a photo of DeSantis shaking hands with former President Donald Trump, and then another of the Florida governor as Newsom ticks through Florida laws to ban books and restrict voting, speech and access to abortion.

"I urge all of you living in Florida to join the fight -- or join us in California, where we still believe in freedom: Freedom of speech, freedom to choose, freedom from hate, and the freedom to love," Newsom says as the images proceed from an aerial shot of the Santa Monica Pier to a rainbow flag waving in the hands of two women with arms around each other. "Don't let them take your freedom.""

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This is a winning message from a smart Democrat.
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Finally Democrats (Newsom) attack DeSantis and GOP with a winning message on taking away freedoms (Original Post) andym Jul 2022 OP
If Biden doesn't run again, I'd be ok with Newsom. Funtatlaguy Jul 2022 #1
Me too! OMGWTF Jul 2022 #10
gavin newsom anti-repub Jul 2022 #13
Your name is "anti-repub," yet you promote an idea to divide the party & let Repubs win. Why? Hekate Jul 2022 #18
what are you thoughts on Andy Beshear if Biden is not running? TomDaisy Jul 2022 #16
I like Beshear. Funtatlaguy Jul 2022 #33
Believe me wryter2000 Jul 2022 #31
Yes... This.. Terry_M Jul 2022 #2
Republicans can live in hell Turbineguy Jul 2022 #3
I think you mean they would live in hell. plimsoll Jul 2022 #12
Love this. cilla4progress Jul 2022 #4
Gavin Newsom for Florida governor! Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #5
Democracy. Coming soon to a state under you! usonian Jul 2022 #6
From your keyboard to God's screen! calimary Jul 2022 #23
LOL! I bitched everywhere about messaging usonian Jul 2022 #25
We ALL have been asking for some dynamic leadership. calimary Jul 2022 #26
brooklynite has been on the phone with party bigwigs, and hasn't reported any breakthroughs. usonian Jul 2022 #27
Aw fuck. They're always "waiting for (fill in the blank here)..." calimary Jul 2022 #34
Coglioni's? Cover? A theme song? Anything? usonian Jul 2022 #35
Need more like this please duckworth969 Jul 2022 #7
Now that wasn't so hard was it? One Dem who is clear, concise and pitch perfect Raven123 Jul 2022 #8
Oooh!! Alliepoo Jul 2022 #9
THIS is what we need. This is what I need. luxmatic Jul 2022 #11
Kick dalton99a Jul 2022 #14
I had a long discussion about Gavin with my San Francisco Chinese immigrant friend last night. NBachers Jul 2022 #15
Great! NIP these autocrats of minority rule right in their buttheads. ancianita Jul 2022 #17
Excellent ad! National recognition, Democratic message, keeps his options open! Hekate Jul 2022 #19
The Washington Examiner is shitting themselves over this ad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #20
This is excellent! Shove their "Freedom" Cha Jul 2022 #21
K&R JudyM Jul 2022 #22
You mean ... that some of our leaders are ... gasp ... calimary Jul 2022 #24
This is the winning message here, and I've said it for a long time IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #28
Yes! this is what needs to be done to win elections! samsingh Jul 2022 #29
I don't think this will help wryter2000 Jul 2022 #30
This year I'm voting "AGAINST" ... Trust_Reality Jul 2022 #32

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
18. Your name is "anti-repub," yet you promote an idea to divide the party & let Repubs win. Why?
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 05:06 PM
Jul 2022

PS: My gov would lose all credibility, too.

TomDaisy

(1,828 posts)
16. what are you thoughts on Andy Beshear if Biden is not running?
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jul 2022

what about McMorrow as VP is Harris does not want to be on a ticket

Terry_M

(745 posts)
2. Yes... This..
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jul 2022

We need more of this. We need to make sure libertarian swing voters don't vote R because Rs are really hard on the offensive on their theocratic personal-life controlling socially conservative views. There may not be that many swing libertarian voters out there but in some states, the state level vote is only 1 or 2% apart.

cilla4progress

(24,587 posts)
4. Love this.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 02:41 PM
Jul 2022

Rising star...

Go get 'em Gavin!

Cue the pics of him maskless during lockdown.

Something tells me, he'll be ready!

usonian

(9,422 posts)
6. Democracy. Coming soon to a state under you!
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jul 2022
https://medium.com/s/state-of-the-future/americas-paralyzed-politics-today-is-california-s-15-years-ago-5fc9c50eebc3

summary:

Why California Politics Is Always 15 Years Ahead
The Remarkably Prescient 15 Year Rule Means Trump & the National Republicans are on the Verge of a Spectacular Collapse
Peter Leyden
Oct 16, 2017
·
What do we mean by California is the future when applied to politics? Modern California politics has an uncanny knack of prefiguring what happens in the rest of America in about a 15-year timeline. In other words, what happened in California 15 years ago should be studied closely to see how it will play out in America today. And what’s happening now in California will roll out over America in the next 15 years.

California experiences the future earlier than other parts of the country. Californians invent many new technologies, adopt them early and adapt new systems around them relatively quickly. They absorb waves of immigrants at the highest numbers in the country and accommodate them into their society quicker. The state is a magnet for young people, entrepreneurs, and people who want to change the world. Much of the population is unusually open to trying new things in the economy, society, and in politics.



Prescient?

Lots more at the link. It's true.

usonian

(9,422 posts)
25. LOL! I bitched everywhere about messaging
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:24 AM
Jul 2022

and Gavin picked up the vibrations. Like our star 1/6 witness, may he open the floodgates.

He had a recent recall scare showing him lagging in the beginning due to apparent complacency, but the jets fired up. Lesson learned. GOTV. And I think it shows here. Great! I haven't heard peep from DNC.

Well, they've been handed multiple Pearl Harbors, nuclear bomb drops and 9/11 hits. Go Gavin. Seems I was asking for some dynamic leadership.

Good!


calimary

(80,693 posts)
26. We ALL have been asking for some dynamic leadership.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:51 AM
Jul 2022

Maybe Gavin’s next job could be head of the DNC. The “leader” we have now is yet another in a continuing series of unimpressive “gotta be NICE” disappointments.

ENOUGH with the “nice guy” crap. This is WAR. And “nice guys” are little more than cannon fodder.

usonian

(9,422 posts)
27. brooklynite has been on the phone with party bigwigs, and hasn't reported any breakthroughs.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 09:59 AM
Jul 2022

I speculated that DNC was waiting for the 1/6 commission, the Roe fallout ... Putin to croak, who knows what?

Meanwhile, the gamut of issues is left to MSM. Everything is left to MSM.

Gavin and Beto and and others are standing up and kicking ass.

To keep this short, here are references.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16866562
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216880042

Ultimately, this is a campaign year, where you make bold points designed to motivate the team and to win voters at the proverbial edge.

This ass-dragging is like the safety commission waiting out months of lab tests instead of issuing a warning "This toy contains contact poisons and explodes at random times".

Brings to mind ----

The Buddha tells a parable of a man who is shot by a poisoned arrow, but before the injured man will allow a doctor to remove the arrow, he insists on knowing the name of the archer, where the archer was from, what was the caste of the archer's family, where the arrow was made, what type of wood was used to form the arrow, etc. Such a man, the Buddha said, would die before learning the answers to his questions.


Yes, let's take some more time to come up with a campaign that will win a Pulitzer prize. (NOT)

You're shot with a poison arrow. Pull it, Sir. (borrowing from a Joseph Pulitzer quote)

calimary

(80,693 posts)
34. Aw fuck. They're always "waiting for (fill in the blank here)..."
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:21 PM
Jul 2022

Gavin Newsom isn’t waiting.

Beto isn’t waiting.

And why are there only two of them?

What are the rest of them waiting FOR? Permission?


usonian

(9,422 posts)
35. Coglioni's? Cover? A theme song? Anything?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:51 PM
Jul 2022

I don't mention the progressives, because that ignites dynamite here. And they get no press except when the media sense a brouhaha in the making, ESPECIALLY an intra-party squabble to amplify.

Also to Acting President for four years Pelosi. I'd add 20 feet to Mt. Rushmore just to put her image in proper perspective.

That said, I really don't know. The thugs have their orders. Dems are free to speak. Maybe THEY are waiting for a consistent and cogent message, so they don't look isolated and bouncing from issue to issue. And ain't that a sorry state?

A consistent message works everywhere and all the time, and adjusts as needed. DAMMIT KIRK. I'm a physics grad, not a staff writer!!

Sports analogies work, and it's like there are 20 different playbooks at the same game. Rick Barry famously said "Come On, People ". And everyone can be their own person, pulling together as a team.

Wow! Can I patent that?

Alliepoo

(2,195 posts)
9. Oooh!!
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jul 2022

Now can he do one for Gilead- formerly known as Ohio? You know, the disgusting state that tells 10 yr old rape victims that being forced to give birth with their little girl bodies is a freakin’ opportunity??

luxmatic

(31 posts)
11. THIS is what we need. This is what I need.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jul 2022

This is the first sign of life I’ve seen from leadership in the Democratic Party in years. Actual paid-for messaging that punches down at the opposition and celebrates progressive values. And it is being broadcast behind enemy lines. I still feel hopeless, but keep doing this, and I might start to feel there’s a reason to fight.

NBachers

(17,001 posts)
15. I had a long discussion about Gavin with my San Francisco Chinese immigrant friend last night.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 04:49 PM
Jul 2022

She’s pretty conservative, and won’t commit to the Democratic Party, but she said that if Gavin runs, she sees the Chinese immigrant community behind him. Luke warm on Joe, not hot at all on Kamala, but very approving of Gavin.

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
17. Great! NIP these autocrats of minority rule right in their buttheads.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 04:51 PM
Jul 2022

Thing is, the DeSantis intelligentsia get this crap from both the illiberal Kochs' network, and Hungary's intellectualized autocracy building networks.

It's enough to gag a maggot.

Cha

(295,903 posts)
21. This is excellent! Shove their "Freedom"
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 09:29 PM
Jul 2022

right back at the fascist magats.

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
22. K&R
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 01:26 AM
Jul 2022

Love this. It’s how we need to all message this. They talk about gun freedom as if that’s the most important freedom.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
24. You mean ... that some of our leaders are ... gasp ...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:07 AM
Jul 2022

… going on OFFENSE???

Seriously?

FINALLY???

At Long Last?????

Oh man… I’m almost not ready for this.






Almost.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
28. This is the winning message here, and I've said it for a long time
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jul 2022

One party (the only remaining party) stands for life, human rights, decency, safety, respect. They are the ones working to protect existing rights and codify new ones so that everyone can have fairness and democracy.

The other "party" (now Christofascist domestic terrorist organization) stands for tyranny, oppression, bigotry, hatred, stripping of human rights, and death.

So do you stand for democracy, human rights and life? Or do you stand for tyranny, bigotry and death?

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
30. I don't think this will help
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jul 2022

Love Newsom and would happily vote for him for president, but this will just look like "them elites talkin' to us like we was stupid." Good people in Florida already know all this.

Trust_Reality

(1,721 posts)
32. This year I'm voting "AGAINST" ...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jul 2022

Against assault weapons.

Against greed - enriching the rich.

Against racism.

Against liars, mobsters, and insurrectionists.

It's easy to identify them. Look for the "R".

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