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JudyM

(29,176 posts)
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 02:51 PM Jul 2022

The Nightmare Scenario SCOTUS is Plotting For the 2024 Election Takeover

This scenario isn’t just plausible: it’s probable. GOP-controlled states are already changing their state laws to allow for it, regardless of how their people vote

… While the main issue being debated in Moore v Harper, scheduled for a hearing (Ed.:by SCOTUS) this October, is a gerrymander that conflicts with North Carolina’s constitution, the issue at the core of the debate is what’s called the “Independent State Legislature Doctrine.”

It literally gives state legislatures the power to pre-rig or simply hand elections to the candidate of their choice….
That doctrine — the basis of John Eastman and Donald Trump’s effort to get states to submit multiple slates of electors — asserts that a plain reading of Article II and the 12th Amendment of the Constitution says that each state’s legislature has final say in which candidate gets their states’ Electoral College vote, governors and the will of the voters be damned.…

As we are watching, the Supreme Court — in collaboration with state legislatures through activists like Ginny Thomas — are setting that election up right now in front of us in real time.

Famed voting rights attorney Marc Elias has a possible (requires setting aside the filibuster) solution:

We damn well better be planning for this, because it’s likely coming our way in just a bit more than two short years.


More substantive detail at the link about how this has been discussed by GOPers for years, including by Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas in Bush v. Gore. (Not to be disregarded for source being Hartmann): https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-nightmare-scenario-scotus-is
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The Nightmare Scenario SCOTUS is Plotting For the 2024 Election Takeover (Original Post) JudyM Jul 2022 OP
Joe Manchin don't care. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #1
Color me stupid wryter2000 Jul 2022 #2
GOOD question, I agree. elleng Jul 2022 #4
'Positive' thought, I don't think 'they' get to 'plot' any longer, elleng Jul 2022 #3
And another dumb question wryter2000 Jul 2022 #5
The result of Dubya stolen election, 2016, thx to pootin, & MM's obstruction SheltieLover Jul 2022 #6
It is intentional design and execution to this point and we need to use all possible means to avert JudyM Jul 2022 #10
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 2022 #11
It's goddam treacherous thing that SCOTUS knows it enables, and a good thing Marc Elias ancianita Jul 2022 #7
Elias is fantastic but we need an army of Eliases. JudyM Jul 2022 #8
Bookmarking. Duppers Jul 2022 #9

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
2. Color me stupid
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 02:55 PM
Jul 2022

How does the "times, places, and manner of holding elections" include determining the outcome?

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
5. And another dumb question
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 02:58 PM
Jul 2022

How many House seats would they lose if the California legislature decided who won those races? Same in NY. They need to rethink this.

JudyM

(29,176 posts)
10. It is intentional design and execution to this point and we need to use all possible means to avert
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jul 2022

its continuation/exacerbation.

Devastation of Democracy.

ancianita

(35,901 posts)
7. It's goddam treacherous thing that SCOTUS knows it enables, and a good thing Marc Elias
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jul 2022

knows how to beat them with Law.

JudyM

(29,176 posts)
8. Elias is fantastic but we need an army of Eliases.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 05:25 PM
Jul 2022

I would like to believe our party leadership is on top of this.

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