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(47,534 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:46 PM Jul 2022

Opinion: Even conservative justices have a right to privacy - Marcus

“The home is different,” Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor wrote in 1988, upholding the constitutionality of a Wisconsin suburb’s ordinance prohibiting “targeted picketing” outside residents’ homes. “A special benefit of the privacy all citizens enjoy within their own walls, which the State may legislate to protect, is an ability to avoid intrusions.”

More than three decades later, with another question of residential picketing in front of the court but on a more personal basis, there is a certain irony to the factual setting of O’Connor’s opinion. Then, the justices were grappling with the question of protesters gathering outside the home of a doctor who performed abortions — carrying signs, shouting slogans and warning children to stay away from the “baby killer.”

Now, the tables have turned. The picketers are protesting the court’s decision to eliminate constitutional protection for abortion. And their intended targets are the homes of the justices themselves, on the leafy streets of Chevy Chase, Md., and in the suburbs of Virginia. Earlier this month, Supreme Court Marshal Gail A. Curley wrote to the states’ governors and local executives asking that they enforce existing prohibitions against residential picketing.

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But Elrich, (Montgomery County Executive) responding in public comments Wednesday, declined Curley’s request. He dismissed it as a publicity stunt: “It’s not about security when you get a message from the press office about security,” he said of the letter, which was released to the public. And he invoked the example of authoritarian regimes: “I think all you got to do is look at Putin’s Russia, and get an idea of where you don’t want to go,” Elrich said. “This idea where people can gather together and if you gather together, you’re gonna be arrested. That’s not happening here.”

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But count me with Curley — and O’Connor — over Elrich. The pickets at justices’ homes — they’ve primarily targeted Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh — are beyond the pale. As I’ve written before, they’re unnecessary; protesters can make their views amply known at the court itself. They are, if anything, counterproductive. Maybe making justices’ lives miserable will make people feel better, but it won’t accomplish anything beyond that. Justices, and their families, deserve as much protection from bombardment within their own homes as abortion doctors do... and for the sake of the justices, their beleaguered families and at least some of their exasperated neighbors — Elrich should enforce the law as written. That will still leave the streets of Chevy Chase a far cry from Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

There’s also a federal law that prohibits picketing outside the homes of judges and others involved in the court system “with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty.” But in the case of pickets motivated by the abortion ruling, as UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh has noted, “Such an intent may be hard to prove, especially after the decision has been handed down, and the Justices have already discharged their duties.”

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/08/kavanaugh-protests-abortion-elrich


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Opinion: Even conservative justices have a right to privacy - Marcus (Original Post) question everything Jul 2022 OP
Women getting a private medical Arger68 Jul 2022 #1
When SCOTUS destroyed womens' right to privacy Ritabert Jul 2022 #2
Right on! duckworth969 Jul 2022 #8
So what does picketing accomplish? jimfields33 Jul 2022 #10
The conservative justices and their apologists can fuck off to hell. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #3
Agreed Ritabert Jul 2022 #4
Like asking Ukrainians to be polite to the Russian troops murdering their daughters nt delisen Jul 2022 #5
This man rapes and violates women. And he wants privacy. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #6
Ummmm... that's a NOPE. Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #7
Actions have consequences. They don't deserve a minutes peace. gibraltar72 Jul 2022 #9
To repeat, we did not like it when they picketed the homes of doctors who performed abortions question everything Jul 2022 #13
Thet perjured themselves...they deserve BigmanPigman Jul 2022 #11
How, exactly? question everything Jul 2022 #14
Impeachment sounds good to me. BigmanPigman Jul 2022 #15
I am sorry... what? OldBaldy1701E Jul 2022 #12
As long as they are peaceful, cross no property boundary and don't block traffic lees1975 Jul 2022 #16

Arger68

(679 posts)
1. Women getting a private medical
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jul 2022

Procedure deserve privacy too. And shouldn't have to fight through a bunch of psycho protesters to get it

jimfields33

(15,948 posts)
10. So what does picketing accomplish?
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 04:01 PM
Jul 2022

Will they change their minds? Maybe but a lawsuit would need to make its way back to the supremes.

onecaliberal

(32,894 posts)
3. The conservative justices and their apologists can fuck off to hell.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jul 2022

Pelvic exams for women and papers at the border. Death if your pregnancy goes sideways. But these fucking pigs want rights. FUCK THAT.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
5. Like asking Ukrainians to be polite to the Russian troops murdering their daughters nt
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jul 2022

Ruth Marcus does not yet comprehend the enormity of what these 5 justices have done. They, like Trump have made a seditious move. They have struck at the essence of our Democratic Republic and the very personhood of over half of our people.

The justices are members of our society. We are all equal to each other. We respect their right to life even though they do not respect ours. We exercise our rights in peace.

We cannot give up any of our Bill of Rights protections to spare their feelings or to ease their discomfort

gibraltar72

(7,511 posts)
9. Actions have consequences. They don't deserve a minutes peace.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:39 PM
Jul 2022

They think they are untouchable. They must know they are not all that special.

question everything

(47,534 posts)
13. To repeat, we did not like it when they picketed the homes of doctors who performed abortions
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:03 PM
Jul 2022

why should we like it now?

And look at what Harris said:"Do not throw up our hands when it is a time to roll up our sleeves.”

We have to act with a desired cause. And right now, it is to stop the states to continue with their laws. So picket the offices, not the homes, of the Abbotts and the Paxtons.

Picketing the private homes may feel good, but it does not accomplish anything besides, maybe, alienating good citizens who happened to be neighbors of the justices

We need a strategy, and shouting and threatening the justices and their families and neighbors really is counterproductive.

And as the story concludes: the decision was already made. They are not going to recall it.

I think that we can accomplish more by thinking with our heads and brains, not with our feelings.

Not that it will make a dent here, but decided to respond.


OldBaldy1701E

(5,157 posts)
12. I am sorry... what?
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:52 PM
Jul 2022
...protesters can make their views amply known at the court itself.




The nation as a whole made their views known. It changed nothing. So, time to make them see just how pissed we are. Being nice is not going to do anything but allow these privileged asshats to ignore the peons who do not make their lives easier. (They may not be getting grift, but that does not mean their family doesn't. And, just because it is not obvious, that does not mean it is not happening.)

lees1975

(3,879 posts)
16. As long as they are peaceful, cross no property boundary and don't block traffic
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jul 2022

it's public property and free speech.

If they don't like public protest, then I suggest the best way to prevent it is to resign from the court. Today if they can make that happen.

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