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IcyPeas

(21,907 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 04:07 AM Jul 2022

A Handgun for Christmas Will a jury find parents of Oxford school shooter criminally responsible?

Long very detailed New York Magazine article. Must read (in my opinion). Talk about red flags!

A Handgun for Christmas Will a jury find James and Jennifer Crumbley criminally responsible for their son’s mass shooting?

On the Saturday after Thanksgiving in 2021, Jennifer Crumbley pushed through the glass door at the Accurate Range. Jennifer, who goes by “Jehn,” appeared self-assured — a tall 43-year-old mother in jeans and a nubbly sweater coat. In her left hand, she carried a black case that held the SIG Sauer 9-mm. semi-automatic pistol her husband, James, had purchased at a gun shop near their home in Oxford, Michigan, the previous day.

The Crumbleys’ 15-year-old son, Ethan, had come along. He stood awkwardly by, glancing distractedly at the semi-automatic rifles for rent on the wall. After consulting with him, Jehn paid cash for half an hour of range time, 100 rounds of 9-mm. ammunition, and two paper targets.

It’s not unusual to see kids at the Accurate Range, which markets itself as a family place. Situated in a shedlike building next to a software firm and across the street from a Taco Bell, the range resembles a suburban bowling alley down to its crowded parking lot and the flashing green-and-red OPEN sign in the front window. Accurate has a party space, and it promotes seniors mornings with free coffee and doughnuts and Mother’s Day with free gun rentals and snacks. It co-sponsors church dinners, and when it exhibits its wares at gun shows, it advertises “kid-friendly outdoor activities, raffles/door prizes, and beautiful wildlife displays.” Under federal law, it is illegal for a minor to own a handgun, but the same law includes an exemption for target practice. The Crumbleys had sometimes gone to the range during the pandemic. A signed waiver for Ethan was already on file.

Ethan faced the long, narrow gallery first. He stepped slightly back from the small metal counter, lifted the pistol, and, turning it over, discovered how to click in the magazine. He aimed and fired, pausing and then, as he became accustomed to the motion, firing 14 times in quick succession. Jehn, behind him, waited for him to finish. The CCTV camera shows her jiggling her foot, which she frequently did later in court, in chains.

When Jehn took her turn, she approached the counter and Ethan showed her how to load the gun and flip the safety. After a couple of rounds, she called him over, and like a golf instructor, he rearranged the fingers of her left hand on the grip of the gun. She fired again, and when she was done, Ethan gently placed the pistol and the magazine back into the padded case. Then Jehn carried the case through the lobby and out to the parking lot. At around 7 p.m., Jehn posted a photo on Instagram. It showed a paper target riddled with holes. “Mom & son day testing out his new Xmas present. My first time shooting a 9mm I hit the bullseye.” She also posted a photo of the family’s Christmas tree, still untrimmed.

Three days later, on Tuesday, November 30, while Jehn was at the office and James was out making DoorDash deliveries, Ethan, a sophomore at Oxford High School, went into the boys’ bathroom between classes. He allegedly took the SIG Sauer out of his backpack and walked down the long, curved hallway, shooting at his schoolmates. He has been charged as an adult in Michigan with the deaths of Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling. The 24 felony counts against him include first-degree murder, assault with intent to murder, possession of a firearm, and terrorism. Michigan does not have a death penalty, and his trial will not begin until January at the earliest, but Ethan Crumbley can expect to spend his whole life incarcerated.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/oxford-school-shooting-ethan-crumbley-parents.html#comments
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A Handgun for Christmas Will a jury find parents of Oxford school shooter criminally responsible? (Original Post) IcyPeas Jul 2022 OP
Long but good read Dr. Shepper Jul 2022 #1
When it comes to the safety of a child and others, there is no privacy right. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #2
Yes, that would be true Dr. Shepper Jul 2022 #3
In this case checking his room wouldn't do much good jmowreader Jul 2022 #4
Checking his journals, diaries, social media would be a big part of checking his room. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #5
That a gun range is a "family place" is sick. live love laugh Jul 2022 #6

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
1. Long but good read
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:52 AM
Jul 2022

There were serious red flags sent up - to parents, teachers, and counselors.

I get the parents not reading his journal too - we want our kid to understand boundaries and privacy as we try build trust and her own sense of personhood. But at the very least, they should have gotten the shooter help. If the mom could afford her horses, she could have gotten a counselor.

We discuss getting professional help regularly with our daughter if she feels overwhelmed or sad or that she isn’t good enough (she is a gymnast and strives for perfection in a way we worry will hurt her).

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
2. When it comes to the safety of a child and others, there is no privacy right.
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:55 AM
Jul 2022

If we think a child has a gun, drugs, any illegal or harmful substances or weapons, their room must be checked.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
4. In this case checking his room wouldn't do much good
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:59 AM
Jul 2022

They knew he had a pistol because they gave it to him. Reading his journals and social media would have been the only way to see his murderous intent.

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
5. Checking his journals, diaries, social media would be a big part of checking his room.
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jul 2022

If there is any reason to believe a minor child is at risk, adults are obligated to check out everything carefully.

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