Bill Press: Four years of Trump is worse than we thought

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Looking back at it now, the most surprising thing about the Donald Trump presidency is that we survived it at all: the lies, the chaos, the ignorance, ugliness, recklessness and lawlessness. On many levels, it was unlike any other presidency in our history, Republican or Democrat.

Presidential historians generally rank Warren G. Harding, Ulysses S. Grant, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Zachary Taylor and Andrew Johnson as the worst six presidents in American history. It’s time to revise the list. Donald Trump makes them look like statesmen.

It’s all spelled out in “The Divider,” a compelling new account of Trump’s four years in the White House by Peter Baker and Susan Glasser. In a sense, their book is a compilation of their great reporting — by Baker at The New York Times and Glasser at The New Yorker — on COVID-19, the Robert Mueller investigation, and both impeachment trials. But it’s more than that. Now that it’s over, pulling it all together, their account of the entirety of the Trump presidency is mind-blowing. How did we stoop so low? How did we escape?

Baker and Glasser don’t hold back. They establish the theme of the book in their very first sentence: “Donald Trump’s refusal to accept defeat in the 2020 election, and the insurrection at the Capitol he summoned to overturn his loss, were no violent outliers but the inexorable culmination of a sustained four-year war on the institutions and traditions of American democracy.”

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/press-four-years-of-trump-is-worse-than-we-thought/ar-AA12BeJ0

[Skittles]

1. how did we stoop so low

indeed

[Golden Raisin]

2. One of Putin's (and Stalin's, Khrushchev's and Brezhnev's )wet dreams come true.

Internal sabotage and destruction.

[Cha]

3. Ya think

[UpInArms]

4. Am glad someone has said it out loud

Other than all of us here at DU

[JohnSJ]

5. No it is exactly what I thought, and why those self-identified progressives who refused to vote

for Hillary in 2016 in the general election helped put us where we are now

[BWdem4life]

6. Ever get tired of beating that horse?

It's dead. And DU should really make up its mind whether it was Russia or fellow liberals who is to blame. Or Jim Comey.

[JohnSJ]

7. No. It was all the above. In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in

those critical swing states Jill Stein received 1% of the vote

So no, I don’t get tired of it because the lessons from 2000 were not learned from the Nader and those pushing the lie there is no difference between Democrats and republicans, and did the same crap in 2016

We lost 3 SC appointments, and those so-called self-identified progressives have no regrets what they did

How about the OPS beating the same dead horse about how bad trump is

What did they think would happen when a racist, bigot, sexist, sociopath, con man was elected?

[BWdem4life]

9. If it was all of the above

Why focus on arguably the smallest factor?

https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/did-bernie-sanders-cost-hillary-clinton-the-presidency/

There were a lot of pissed-off Bernie supporters after the 2020 primaries as well. That didn't cost Biden the election.

[JohnSJ]

10. It was what happened in 2016 that may end our democracy. Krystal Ball has no credibility

She is a bias political commentator

The facts remain, in every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1% while Jill Stein received 1% in those swing states, and it made all the difference. It wasn’t much, but enough. Krystal Ball was one of those political commentators who pushed her anti-Hillary rants on the airwaves every chance she had.

She has absolutely no credibility

She actually claimed that trump is not as bad as the “liberals” said

Frankly, she is an idiot, and has made many other idiotic comments

[BWdem4life]

11. Ok well good luck with your crusade

to make it all the fault of your fellow progressives.

[JohnSJ]

12. I never said that.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. You make very good points. Adding the reluctance to Impeach

and the failure to support a brave group of Democrats who wanted him impeached on 11-15-17 when his approvals were at lowest.

Think it's important to understand the factors that lead us to this trump reign of terror!

[JohnSJ]

17. I agree. It is critical

[calimary]

19. Agreed. All of the above.

[raging moderate]

8. And Andrew Jackson.

Ulysses S. Grant TRIED VERY HARD to be a good President. Basically, he was duped by some crafty psychopaths. And he may have been going through the first symptoms of the cancer that killed him only a few weeks after he bravely finished that wonderful book he wrote.

[mountain grammy]

14. Thank you..

[electric_blue68]

13. 🤔 What do you mean "we" keemosabe? The majority rejected this monster

[LudwigPastorius]

16. "How did we escape?"

Who says we have escaped?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Exactly. We thought jan 2021 would be the end of him

Boy were we wrong