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Alan_Silverman

(24 posts)
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:55 PM Oct 2022

Nixon's Treason

Last edited Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Richard Nixon committed treason to win the 1968 Presidential Election.

Articles: politico.com, millercenter.org Or search "Nixon Treason".

Through an intermediary Nixon approached the South Vietnamese delegation to the Paris Peace talks and talked them out of signing the peace accords. Until recently it hadn't been proven that Nixon directly made the offer. We also didn’t know the South Vietnamese accepted it.

The South Vietnamese broke off peace negotiations when Nixon made them an offer they couldn’t refuse. Nixon won the election. The Vietnam War continued four more years, killing millions more human beings.

Nixon also knowingly left a thousand or more MIAs in the hands of our enemies. I knew Syd Schanberg, the New York Times journalist who wrote The Death and Life of Dith Pran, later made into the movie The Killing Fields. Syd wrote about how Nixon and Kissinger abandoned American MIAs in Vietnam after the war ended. They left them there and knew it.

Schanberg article or search "Schanberg MIA"

Please recite the following:

"Richard Nixon won the Presidency of the United States by convincing South Vietnam not to sign a peace treaty ending the Vietnam War. He then extended the war four more years and finally abandoned our brave soldiers to die horrible deaths in Southeast Asia."

That is undeniable evil. Evil without justification. Evil in intent and outcome. Nixon’s treason betrayed the men and women who fought for America, killed millions of human beings and altered our world’s path to something far worse.

Donald Trump didn’t make the Republican Party evil. Since 1968 the Republican Party has been led by amoral sociopaths who don't give a damn about other human beings, start wars for no reason and cheated on Democracy until they destroyed it.

Individual Republicans can be decent human beings. They cannot be moral human beings because their leaders are evil. Every moral American voter must vote for every Democratic candidate in every election until 2025 at least. Then humanity has a chance.

Please send this on to others of like mind.

My profound thanks,

Al

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Nixon's Treason (Original Post) Alan_Silverman Oct 2022 OP
So were the Watergate Tapes at all showing this information? TigressDem Oct 2022 #1
Robert Parry, at Consortium News The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2022 #2
Interesting TigressDem Oct 2022 #3
They've been eating away at the foundations The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2022 #9
Eugene just wasn't enough to clean the McCarthy name nt yellowdogintexas Oct 2022 #13
the tapes Alan_Silverman Oct 2022 #4
And Raygun learned he could do that, re-the American hostages in Iran. SharonAnn Oct 2022 #5
I concede that there are PLENTY in the RETHUG party and REICH Wing that do EVIL TigressDem Oct 2022 #6
Yep. The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2022 #8
And LBJ was a royal bastard! Grins Oct 2022 #11
He discussed it with Dirksen in that phone call yellowdogintexas Oct 2022 #12
It's out there...I heard it once The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2022 #14
the call between LBJ and Senator Dirksen yellowdogintexas Oct 2022 #16
Is yours an ironic comment? Alan_Silverman Oct 2022 #15
How long were you with IBM? My father was fairly well known, but I don't believe he worked for them LT Barclay Oct 2022 #18
This happened in '68 before Nixon was president, so... Grins Oct 2022 #10
I'm more interested in strategies. Alan_Silverman Oct 2022 #7
I thought this was old - if still disgusting - news. Roger Stone still carries a tattoo of Tricky Martin68 Oct 2022 #17

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
1. So were the Watergate Tapes at all showing this information?
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:07 PM
Oct 2022

Or is this treason he got away with and only got caught up with the smaller violation of American trust?

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,822 posts)
2. Robert Parry, at Consortium News
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:27 PM
Oct 2022

Wrote a great article on this as well. It was called something like “LBJ’s secret x-file on Nixon’s treason, I think. Excellent read. Everyone’s long gone of course. One of the possibilities put forward was that Watergate was Nixon’s attempt to retrieve LBJ’s evidence against him.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
3. Interesting
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:40 PM
Oct 2022

Sometimes my brain just gets so full with all the new ways things have been unsettled for so long.

All the krakens under the calm surface I never saw, that have swallowed how many innocents?

Thanks for the new lines of reasoning.

Alan_Silverman

(24 posts)
4. the tapes
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:41 PM
Oct 2022

Lyndon Johnson had all of his telephone calls taped for posterity. LBJ made a call to Republican Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois in which he said that Nixon was committing treason and if Dirksen didn't give him the message to stop then LBJ would. That floored me when I read it. It's been known for a long time that someone approached the South Vietnamese delegation with an offer like that. Maybe the tapes were finally released. Now we have transcripts and also notes from the Nixon library.

That is insane. The whole thing is just insane, including the fact that LBJ could have put an end to Nixon in a minute.

We should not shy away from the word "evil". The Republicans are evil and have been since 1968 at least. I want to get the word out about this for several good reasons. The most important being that this will come at the entire Republican Party from left field less than a month before the election. They won't know what hit them. The second, it will utterly destroy their veneer of morality. What Nixon did was hideous beyond anything I can conceive and we have the good on him.

Thanks,
Al

PS Pass the word

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
6. I concede that there are PLENTY in the RETHUG party and REICH Wing that do EVIL
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:50 PM
Oct 2022

However, what is interesting is those who are stepping away from that cesspool and anyone who steps away from the MAGA
in my mind has rejected that EVIL and is beginning to see again.

They have been blinded to follow the party line even if it goes right over a train track in front of an oncoming train.

Those who step away, I won't call evil.

IF they can change the party like the DEMS did so many years ago, and purge the evil, I will be relieved.

IF they keep it up and bow to their MAGA God, then yeah, evil little dolts get what they deserve and no pity from me.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,822 posts)
8. Yep.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:48 AM
Oct 2022

When we talk about “win at all costs”, that was Tricky Dick.

When we talk about “party over country”, that was Traitor Dick too.

Pukes have been tearing the nation down for generations.

Grins

(7,221 posts)
11. And LBJ was a royal bastard!
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:59 AM
Oct 2022

Wonder why he didn’t out Nixon?

Robert Caro’s last book on LBJ will cover the last 4 years of his Admin. and Vietnam. His previous books so thorough he will dig deep into Nixon’s treason.

If you have not read Caro’s Master if the Senate get it! Read it and see how LBJ played then-Senator Nixon for a fool. The whole book is amazing.

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
12. He discussed it with Dirksen in that phone call
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:43 AM
Oct 2022

I can't remember the exact reason but he had a deep concern regarding the potential harm it could cause if he did.

Now I have to hunt down that recording, it has to be out there somewhere.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,822 posts)
14. It's out there...I heard it once
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:31 AM
Oct 2022

Maybe played on the radio. LBJ talking about The Crook’s treason. Also Weasel Dick protesting he would never do such a thing…while he was actually doing it.

Weasel Dick got away with treason and mass murder

Alan_Silverman

(24 posts)
15. Is yours an ironic comment?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:26 PM
Oct 2022

I read something about that a while back in Wikipedia. It said that LBJ thought that if he outed Nixon and Nixon still won, that would undermine his ability to kill people. LOL.

This is personal. Just between you and me. I was pretty close to this. I'm 75 and I attended the 1968 Democratic Convention. I was also a systems programmer at IBM. So I'm pretty logical too. After going over all the evidence, I think LBJ was mortally pissed off that the anti-Vietnam war protesters pitched him out of the Presidency and equally pissed off the Black Power movement pissed all over his domestic agenda. So he said, "Screw you. Let's find out how you like Nixon as Pres." That's just my intuitive feeling. But then, going back over the facts of what turned out being the 1968 Democratic Convention Police Riot", here's another wild theory. LBJ gave Daley the go ahead to bash in the heads of protestors for the same reason. Pure personal ego. Makes me want to puke. That's just a theory, of course.
Keep up the fight and thank you,
Al

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
18. How long were you with IBM? My father was fairly well known, but I don't believe he worked for them
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 01:37 AM
Oct 2022

directly. He was also very involved with ASM.
Both my grandparents worked for IBM, but that was probably way before your time because we're not too far apart in age.
Last name of all was Sanders. Your comments about being logical with that background reminded me of my dad. He talked about buying a motorcycle occasionally (I did and he got to ride that), but he would have preferred American made, but after looking at a Harley for 10 minutes he picked up on 6 major design flaws.

Personally, I would tend to think (although I'm often accused of being a conspiracy theorist) that Johnson wasn't sure who was backing Nixon. If he had doubts about the official story of Kennedy's assassination, he may have been concerned about himself if the spoke up. As we've seen recently with the Secret Service, we're approaching the Roman type environment where no one in power can be completely sure of who is safe and who is not in the circle around them.

Alan_Silverman

(24 posts)
7. I'm more interested in strategies.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 11:19 PM
Oct 2022

I worked at IBM on the code for their mainframe operating systems. That made me pretty logical. I think in terms of strategy and tactics. I'm saying that if we make this specific issue go viral it will change the entire course of the election in our favor in a minute.

Martin68

(22,843 posts)
17. I thought this was old - if still disgusting - news. Roger Stone still carries a tattoo of Tricky
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 05:49 PM
Oct 2022

Dick on his back, so his spirit lives on. The Clinton impeachment was all about revenge for Nixon's impeachment trial. You can bet your life they will vote to impeach Biden if they get the chance. Since they shot JFK, we've been living with these monsters trying gain complete control of the country.

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