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lees1975

(3,845 posts)
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:34 AM Oct 2022

Hold Enablers Accountable

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/10/hold-enablers-accountable.html

Making the case that this attack (on Paul Pelosi) was directly connected to the right's demonizing of Nancy Pelosi, for as long as she has been Speaker is as easy as looking at the facts. Mika Brzezinkski on this morning's Morning Joe broadcast, did an outstanding job of laying out the facts, tying this in with the January 6th Trump Insurrection and pointing out that this guy was a radicalized right wing extremist, not just some random crazy, and that is actions are directly motivated by what the Trump Insurrection attempted to pull off on January 6th, 2021, which was to stop, at all costs, the certification of a legitimate election.

We need a justice system that is going to make it clear that threats against politicians is not protected free speech and will not be tolerated. The tongue-clicking and head shaking and appearances on cable news to condemn this action is all just words. It has no purpose and achieves no result. It applies no real accountability and the danger to all members of Congress, as well as other elected officials, continues unabated.

Making or inciting threats is against the law. If news media personalities and the networks that pay their salaries are held accountable for allowing this kind of remark to be made and publicized on their outlets, they should be charged and brought to trial for being an accomplice. Politicians who obviously encourage this should be removed from office and not permitted to run again. Character assassination is clear evidence that the individual spouting the threats is not mentally or emotionally capable of handling public office. Wishing opponents harm or death is as unAmerican and unpatriotic as it gets.
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usonian

(9,747 posts)
1. Repost: Threatening an elected official and certain others is a FEDERAL CRIME.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:44 AM
Oct 2022
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17301456
In response to:
'Enough Is Enough': Biden Rips Attack On Paul Pelosi, Right-Wing Hate That Fueled It
https://democraticunderground.com/100217299651

Repubs are worried about crime?
PROPOSAL:
Prosecute Threats and Hate Crime.
They are documented, public record, and flipping the finger at the law.
People with no moral compass will do any vile thing, and increasingly so if not held accountable.

JUST DO IT

And Section 230 (see below) as self-policed is a shitshow.
Certain Muskerberg people do not give one shit about anyone or anything but themselves:
IMO, Musk is impulsive, reckless and unconcerned about consequences of his decisions and actions.
Zuck, as well.
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17295221
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_government_officials_of_the_United_States
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/115
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230
Section 230 is a section of Title 47 of the United States Code enacted as part of the United States Communications Decency Act

lees1975

(3,845 posts)
3. I'm also thinking of people like
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:35 AM
Oct 2022

Sarah Palin, who made advertisements with a gun and a target of Hillary Clinton.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, who advocates physical violence in removal of members of congress she doesn't like.
Lauren Boebert, who is also a Palin wannabee (how pathetic is that!) with the photos of rifles and Pelosi targets.
Breitbart news, which carries the threats, along with Bannon's War Room. Both of those not only put it out there, but I imagine they are also prompting it to get their ratings up a bit.

usonian

(9,747 posts)
5. I hope they are flagged (indicted) for their documented public threats.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:46 AM
Oct 2022

Famous quote: Bin Laden didn't fly the planes.

But he was held accountable.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. Has perp been charged with assassination attempt yet?
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:34 AM
Oct 2022

I've been waiting to see if this will happen. Haven't seen it yet, but just got up. Yawn...

This absolutely must happen!

And I agree, those public figures calling for attacks on others must be held acccountable legally!

Their vitriol is much more harmful than yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. Just ask the Pelosi family, Heather Heyer's family, etc!

usonian

(9,747 posts)
4. I am guessing that the feds are working on it, after state charges were filed.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:42 AM
Oct 2022

The guy's a nobody, so he'll no doubt get the full "Son of McVeigh" treatment.
By the same prosecutor.

The gloves come off for nobody's in America.

Hoping that some atomic brass knuckles are being prepared for the SORB (Spoiled Orange Rich Boy)

lees1975

(3,845 posts)
6. We need a faster and more effective way to get direct results than two thirds of congress
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:55 PM
Oct 2022

voting, which will never get the job done because the Republican side doesn't want to deal with these kinds of crimes. A grand jury should be able to remove a member of Congress from office if they've made radical, threatening remarks, like using someone's photo for target practice which is a clear indication of intent. Twelve reasonable, intelligent men and women should be able to figure out that someone who does that isn't fit for office and needs to be retired back to private life, then sued for money to compensate victims.

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