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niyad

(113,534 posts)
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 03:39 PM Nov 2022

There is no 'war on men' - we now know feminism is good for boys

There is no ‘war on men’ – we now know feminism is good for boys
Laura Bates


A report shows that boys benefit from learning about gender stereotypes and different types of masculinity


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‘Instead of reinforcing stereotypes, the report’s authors suggest, all children benefit from a feminist approach to learning.’ Photograph: Caia Image/Getty Images
Tue 8 Nov 2022 06.47 EST
Last modified on Tue 8 Nov 2022 08.36 EST

Disappointing news today for those who blame feminism for the problems facing young men: research shows that challenging gender stereotypes and misogyny helps boys too. A narrative has emerged over the last decade in popular culture and politics that portrays men and boys (particularly white, heterosexual ones) as in “crisis”, victimised by feminism and social justice movements, and now “left behind” or suffering so-called “reverse discrimination”. From the misogynistic memes that swirled around the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial, to the male MPs attempting to debunk the “bad press” men have been getting, to the description of #MeToo as a “witch-hunt” on flagship radio programmes, this argument has been steadily building up steam.


However, The State of UK Boys report released today by the Global Boyhood Initiative shows that, instead of being victimised by feminism, boys are facing an entirely different crisis. Violence and being “tough” is normalised as a natural part of being a man, which encourages boys to see violence (particularly male-on-male violence) as an inevitable part of growing up. The study, which comprised a literature review alongside interviews with experts, also found that these kinds of stereotypes are present from birth, with families, schools and peer groups all playing their part. Of course the impact of this is immense, and reading about the boys in the report who justified male violence through notions of men’s possession and ownership of women goes some way to explain the shockingly high levels of sexual assault in schools. But these stereotypes also harm boys – look, for instance, at the under-reporting of violence and abuse against boys and men.

Instead of reinforcing these stereotypes, the report’s authors suggest, all children would benefit from a feminist approach to learning (something that will come as no surprise to many feminists, who have been arguing for this for decades). For example, boys would benefit from learning about the problems with gender stereotypes, and also from a destigmatisation of close friendships between boys, which are often discouraged by homophobic ideals of masculinity. Encouraging male friendships, the study finds, would provide opportunities for boys to learn reciprocity, empathy and intimacy.


The idea that white, working-class boys are neglected and “failing” is “both manufactured and actively misleading”, the report states. White boys are in fact less likely than Black Caribbean, Black African and Bangladeshi students to claim free school meals, and less likely to be excluded from school than Black Caribbean boys. White boys who do not receive free school meals get higher grades than some minoritised groups, too. With this in mind, it’s worth asking who benefits from peddling these misleading claims, and why? Perhaps it’s those who want to keep the status quo as it is.

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Laura Bates is the founder of the Everyday Sexism Project (https://everydaysexism.com/) and author of Men Who Hate Women

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/08/feminists-war-on-men-misogyny-boys-gender-stereotypes-masculinity

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There is no 'war on men' - we now know feminism is good for boys (Original Post) niyad Nov 2022 OP
Yes!!! Boys need to learn about working together and accepting people, not stupid aggressiveness RKP5637 Nov 2022 #1
Exactly. niyad Nov 2022 #7
Exactly!!!! "There is no 'war on men' - we now know feminism is good for boys." n/t RKP5637 Nov 2022 #2
I thought they were all in os Social Darwinism IbogaProject Nov 2022 #3
You were very kind not to laugh at him. Truth hurts sometiimes. Doubt niyad Nov 2022 #6
Kick and Rec... great article found by niyad (n/t) MissMillie Nov 2022 #4
Thank you! niyad Nov 2022 #5
And thank you for giving it more exposure and visibility. niyad Nov 2022 #10
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2022 #8
Thank you. niyad Nov 2022 #9

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. Yes!!! Boys need to learn about working together and accepting people, not stupid aggressiveness
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 03:53 PM
Nov 2022

and masculine toxicity. FFS, there is enough aggressiveness and fighting in the world without working to create it.

IbogaProject

(2,835 posts)
3. I thought they were all in os Social Darwinism
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 05:46 PM
Nov 2022

You know survival of the fittest. By their Libertarian values they are not competing in the love market and therefore have low value. We all need to refrain from providing any significant assistance to any avid GOP supporters who come up luckless in the dating 'market'. I know at least one myself and while I was willing to provide advice 20 some years ago, I won't offer help now. I did rib him when he was upset most of the dating market were 'liberals', I asked that his brand wasn't selling "isn't that the free market individually voting one by one against selfish conservativism?", mumble, mumble, excuses was all I remember him saying. This guy isn't even a MAGAt. Oh well dude.

niyad

(113,534 posts)
6. You were very kind not to laugh at him. Truth hurts sometiimes. Doubt
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 11:14 AM
Nov 2022

he will eever acknowledge though.

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