A "Tsunami of corruption"

[lees1975]

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/11/a-tsunami-of-corruption.html

Of course I would like to give credit where credit is due. The title came from somewhere in the cluster of news reports I've watched and to which I've listened over the past eight or nine days since the election. More than likely, I was doing something else when I heard it, it caught my attention and I wrote it down and went on with what I was doing.

As Americans, we've always thought, and we have been taught, that our constitution is the best bulwark we could possibly have against the threat of dictatorship and extremism. We have naively thought that we are the model democracy, so much so that our approach to foreign relations involves the imposition of our kind of democracy and our values on other people of the world. We've found all kinds of excuses to explain why it didn't work in some places. But we've never really backed off of that view. And so, we have been brought to the precipice of a cliff, closer to losing what we have than at any other point in our history, in my opinion, closer even than we were in the 1850's and 1860's before and during the Civil War.

The crimes this man, Trump, has committed are as well documented as is possible, in thousands of pages of a special investigation conducted by Robert Mueller, and in thousands of pages of testimony and investigation conducted by Congress about his instigation and incitement of the insurrection on January 6th, 2020 and now, in his criminal removal of top secret documents from the White House following his presidency. That doesn't count the multiple cases of fraud and sexual abuse he has settled or for which he has had to pay fines and penalties in his business dealings.

So, in this country, with our pride in our constitution, our democracy, and our idealism, how is it possible that this man is free to announce yet another run for the Presidency? How is it possible, riding a "tsunami of corruption" with evidence in hand, that he is even free?

[republianmushroom]

1. Nailed it

[Picaro]

2. Highly recommend

[ancianita]

3. How is it possible? Due process. That's the pace of rule of law.

You're doing what so many here do -- you want justice sooner than Rule of Law, and the monumental scope of this extraordinary once-in-a-lifetime sedition case can give you.

Calm down. This is FUD -- Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt -- talk.

[lees1975]

5. For an ordinary citizen, justice moves a heck of a lot faster

so why is this any different?

It's been two years. Two years! That makes your point hard to buy. We need to see some results before the next Presidency begins.

[ancianita]

6. An ordinary citizen isn't guilty of an entire four years of networked sedition across

two branches of government.

It's different because of TIME, SCALE OF THE CRIME NETWORK, EVIDENCE COLLECTION -- TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS, HUNDRED TO THOUSANDS OF SWORN WITNESS TESTIMONY -- OBSTRUCTIONS AND DUE PROCESS DELAYS.

I'm not selling anything. The longer you read and think on these things, the easier it is for you to see how it sells itself.

Pretty sure we'll get results. Just not at the pace Americans are used to getting things.

Should it be this long and hard? Yes.

[lees1975]

9. Two years.

And still no indictment adds up to special treatment. I agree, it takes time. Months maybe, not two years.

[ancianita]

10. Okay, two.

[lees1975]

11. Its not being held up by investigation.

There are plenty of people working on it who have expertise, know the law and know how to categorize evidence. There are multiple crimes here. Start with one and keep moving. Hold him in jail as a flight risk. Law enforcement has all kinds of ways to go after common criminals and keep them off the streets until there's a conviction.

But there are two Americas, the one most of us live in and the one the wealthy, privileged and powerful live in. They do not have a constitution, laws or democracy.

[ancianita]

12. Right.

But there are two Americas, the one most of us live in and the one the wealthy, privileged and powerful live in. They do not have a constitution, laws or democracy.

In their minds only. Reality of rule of law enforcement applies to them no matter what they believe.

The DOJ chips away at the wealthy privileged and powerful all the time.


Right off the DOJ's front page:

Investment Manager Arrested for $10 Million Cryptocurrency Ponzi Scheme
Friday, November 18, 2022

10 Charged in Business Email Compromise and Money Laundering Schemes Targeting Medicare, Medicaid, and Other Victims

Fugitive Couple Extradited to the United States from Montenegro to Begin Prison Sentences for $20 Million Fraud

Political Consultant Convicted for Scheme Involving Illegal Foreign Campaign Contribution to 2016 Presidential Campaign

United States Repatriates Over $20 Million in Assets Stolen by Former Nigerian Dictator

Tax Attorneys and Insurance Agent Indicted for Promoting and Selling Fraudulent Tax Shelter

Two Pharmacy Owners Plead Guilty in COVID-19 Money Laundering and Health Care Fraud Case

Florida Birth-Related Neurological Injury Compensation Plan and Association to Pay $51 Million to Resolve False Claims Act Allegations

Indian National Charged in $8 Million COVID-19 Relief Fraud Scheme

Honeywell to Pay $3.35 Million for Alleged False Claims for Zylon Bullet Proof Vests

CEO and President of Hawaii Shipbuilding Company Charged with Securities Fraud

Two Arrested and 13 Charged in Three Separate Cases for Alleged Participation in Malign Schemes in the United States on Behalf of the Government of the People’s Republic of China

[lees1975]

13. Anecdotal examples

None of them Trump. He is getting treated differently and there is no denying it.

[ancianita]

14. Sure. Yet until they were

caught up with, they thought they were in the same America Trump's in.

[lees1975]

17. Trump's been caught

Evidence in hand and broadcast in the media. Do t set anymore deadlines, arrest and charge. We've seen all the crimes he has committed.

Bannon has been caught and convicted. Out on appeal. Few of us could afford the kind of lawyering that takes. It's the other america. Bannon would be in prison now if he lived in our real world.

[Justice matters.]

4. Because "no one is above the law" is a joke.

It is a propaganda phrase to intimidate all the millions of potential criminal-minded individuals in the populace who don't have enough money to feed the lucrative for-profit Attorney-Lawyer industry (not cheap labor...) so they will remain law-abiding citizens.

As long as hair furhair will not actually shoot someone on 5th Avenue (and only in self-defense), he will never be sent to prison (maybe just house arrest, but that's a long stretch).

Pretty much evident at this point (I want to be proven wrong, though, to respect the pain of his million victims).

[yankee87]

7. Color of justice is green

Like you said, the idea that no one is above the law is BS. Look at what's happening to the perverts from Epstein's island and how only a sergeant was prosecuted for Abu Grah (forgive misspelling). If your powerful, nothing happens to you.

[Justice matters.]

8. Yep. Hair furhair is above the law as proven by the wasted million-dollars Mueller Report

Tome 2 (now to be found in the recycle bin).

Forgotten there. RIP. Statutes of Limitations won...

[Martin Eden]

15. The most disturbing aspect of all this

Is that tens of millions of American voters still want him to be president.

[ShazamIam]

16. Rapist, theft, treason, amazing how the Republicans run against crime but elect criminals.

[lees1975]

18. Is the appointment of a special prosecutor a step in the right direction?

I hope it is. We're soon to be two years since January 6th. It seems to me that what has been laid out in the Congressional hearings, which I've watched in their entirety, is more than enough to indict and convict. It's already sent over 800 insurrectionists to a well deserved punishment.

If we don't stand up and put a stop to this crap, we'll lose our country. From my perspective, one of the main reasons I voted for Joe Biden and for the legislators whom I just helped re-elect was my thinking that they are the people who can get this done. So I have confidence in them, but I'm not going to stop pushing for this.