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lees1975

(3,839 posts)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:45 PM Nov 2022

Will Evangelicals stand up for their faith and call out Republicans' agenda of hate and revenge?

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/11/a-republican-agenda-of-hate-and-revenge.html

Don't expect much.

"Business in the evangelical industrial complex will continue as normal. Until the next scandal. Which is certain to come. Because the lying and corruption is rampant in evangelicalism."--Julie Roys, Could the Meltdown at Cedarville be Evangelicalism's Chernobyl?" The Roys Report, July 2020

It is difficult to center positions taken by conservative Evangelicals on Christian doctrine and theology. Most of the churches, even those affiliated with denominations and fellowships, are independent and autonomous and if they have a pastor or church leader who wanders off the beaten path and tries to build personal loyalty from a congregation around unique interpretations of obscure Old Testament passages of scripture, there is no way to hold them accountable because they intimidate their own church members into submission and there is no other means of accountability. People like Trump's "spiritual advisor" Paula White, or the Tennessee pastor who likes to make headlines, Greg Locke, are actually heretics by the more widely accepted standards of Evangelicals.

But political power has trumped Biblical truth, bringing Mormons to the pulpit of Liberty University among Baptists and other ultra-conservative Fundamentalists who characterize Mormonism as a demonic cult. The lust after worldly power is a temptation that is hard to resist. So it's not surprising that they're willing to compromise sacred beliefs for political gain. Trump, who is not a Christian by his own admission, demands, and gets, their loyalty. Don Jr., at the Trump political organization's "Turning Point" rallies, tells the young Evangelical-leaning audiences who show up to abandon Jesus' teachings, that "turning the other cheek" and "loving your enemies" may be nice things to do, but "they won't get you anywhere in this world."

So as Republicans abandon their constituent's desires to play politics and try to get revenge for being losers, will Evangelicals call them out or will they continue to sell out their faith for political power?

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Will Evangelicals stand up for their faith and call out Republicans' agenda of hate and revenge? (Original Post) lees1975 Nov 2022 OP
Lol, no Effete Snob Nov 2022 #1
Past behavior predicts future performance luv2fly Nov 2022 #2
no, they are the root of the hate. Meadowoak Nov 2022 #3
No republianmushroom Nov 2022 #4
Of course not! RainCaster Nov 2022 #5
Not the leaders. They are into religion for the easy money and power. Freethinker65 Nov 2022 #6
Politics and religion use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Nov 2022 #10
No. A large honkin' NO. sprinkleeninow Nov 2022 #7
No... all that matters to them are other people's ABORTIONS Blue Owl Nov 2022 #8
Betteridge's Law Of Headlines . . . hatrack Nov 2022 #9
Have they ever? Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #11
Trump's support among Evangelicals is waning... lees1975 Nov 2022 #12
When they're done with Trump, they will just say Jesus spoke Meadowoak Nov 2022 #14
What do you get when mixing religion and politics? hatrack Nov 2022 #18
NO Tikki Nov 2022 #13
Like hate and revenge aren't on the menu already for evangelicals? Solly Mack Nov 2022 #15
They've got pharisaic churches that bless AR-15's, with the rest just a click away. So a big no. ancianita Nov 2022 #16
The evangelicals who have gone RW will not because they have a distorted revisionist view of Ford_Prefect Nov 2022 #17
No. They lack any sense of honor or decency. n/t. NNadir Nov 2022 #19
of course not Skittles Nov 2022 #20

Freethinker65

(9,999 posts)
6. Not the leaders. They are into religion for the easy money and power.
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:04 PM
Nov 2022

I doubt many ever believed in God, but they can use fear (of God's wrath) to manipulate their gullible followers.

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
9. Betteridge's Law Of Headlines . . .
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:33 PM
Nov 2022

If a headline poses a rhetorical question, the answer is "no".

Especially in this case . . .

lees1975

(3,839 posts)
12. Trump's support among Evangelicals is waning...
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:43 PM
Nov 2022
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/18/2137090/-Trump-finally-starts-bleeding-evangelical-support-but-this-time-no-one-thinks-it-s-the-stigmata

But the problem is that once these Evangelical leaders did support him, it stripped them of their credibility. How can you be so loyal to someone who denies being Christian by definition and whose behavior is the exact opposite of Christian values?

But I've never trusted any of the so-called "Evangelical leaders." There are few sincere Christians among them, most of them are in it for the easy money.

Meadowoak

(5,534 posts)
14. When they're done with Trump, they will just say Jesus spoke
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:43 AM
Nov 2022

To them and showed them the light. All will be forgotten.

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
18. What do you get when mixing religion and politics?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 10:13 AM
Nov 2022

A: Shitty religion and even shittier politics.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
15. Like hate and revenge aren't on the menu already for evangelicals?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:48 AM
Nov 2022

Preaching from the pulpit about killing LGBT people. Preaching from the pulpit about the evil of liberals. Preaching from the pulpit about taking back "their" America. Preaching their rightwing politics from the pulpit.

It doesn't have to be all. One is too many (and it is far more than one).



ancianita

(35,932 posts)
16. They've got pharisaic churches that bless AR-15's, with the rest just a click away. So a big no.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:51 AM
Nov 2022

Pharisaic christianity is another spiritual hierarchy used to spread thoughts and prayers and obedience on the spiritually inferior (women and children) insiders, and tough love on spiritual outsiders.

Jesus knows all these false prophets and their profits.

Like Johnny Cash says,

… Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin' in the dark against your fellow man
But as sure as God made black and white
What's down in the dark will be brought to the light

… You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later God'll cut you down
Sooner or later God'll cut you down

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
17. The evangelicals who have gone RW will not because they have a distorted revisionist view of
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 02:06 AM
Nov 2022

Christian doctrine. In short words they call themselves Christians but believe in a version of God which even King James would not recognize. They have simplified Christian faith in the same way the Taliban have done Islam.

The MSM has treated RW Evangelicals as if they represent the majority of Christians in the US. This has never been true.

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