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lees1975

(3,850 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:35 PM Dec 2022

Faltering Republican patriotism visible in actions of GOP members of Congress during Zelenskyy visit

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/12/zelenskyy-visit-to-us-is-another.html

Somehow, Democrats need to make this a major part of the political narrative.

Why would members of a political party that once waved American flags in the faces of perceived enemies, launched military invasions of countries to impose "democratically elected government", and declared Russia and China as the biggest enemies of the American ideals of individual freedom and democracy suddenly act so foolishly ignorant when the head of state of a nation that is fighting against one of the declared enemies, and advancing American ideals along with defending their freedom and sovereignty, comes to Congress to thank us for our help and to ask for more? Republicans have lost their minds, and that's showing up in these actions as well. But I see two explanations, both credible, both supported with evidence.

One, it's political. President Zelenskyy embarrassed their idol by resolute integrity in the face of a corrupt bribe and since he's still their inamorata, they are throwing a fit.

Two, there's Russian money and interference in there somewhere. We know it's happening, there's documented evidence all through the Mueller Report, which DOJ has ignored for the most part. But where there's smoke...


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Faltering Republican patriotism visible in actions of GOP members of Congress during Zelenskyy visit (Original Post) lees1975 Dec 2022 OP
They are patriots Turbineguy Dec 2022 #1
They're patriots of their wallets. icymist Dec 2022 #14
BINGO! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2022 #20
Faltering? Failed. marble falls Dec 2022 #2
and 3. They can't stand for Biden to have any win, any honor, any success, any friends vlyons Dec 2022 #3
Well put happy feet Dec 2022 #17
Looks like Putin owns the GOP. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #4
and Wall St, Exxon, and the NRA vlyons Dec 2022 #18
Yes the autocrats and oligarchs are aligned against the people. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #19
Not that this is anything new, but yes. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2022 #21
Exactly. Humans don't seem to be evolving much. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #22
The bill just passed has 43 billion in aide for Ukraine. Enough for the next year. PortTack Dec 2022 #5
Their favorite excuse is that they don't want to keep giving... Omnipresent Dec 2022 #6
I'm in favor of unrestricted, unconditional aid to Ukraine. lees1975 Dec 2022 #7
Three billion a year goes to Israel. OldBaldy1701E Dec 2022 #23
Nailed it republianmushroom Dec 2022 #8
They are morally bankrupt and... FoggyLake Dec 2022 #9
Indeed? Who? calimary Dec 2022 #13
MAGA GOP is all in on Putin and now apparently Iran's clerics. bronxiteforever Dec 2022 #10
The parallels to the WWII era stand out to me. wnylib Dec 2022 #11
Even Jim Jordan tried to get Scott Perry to stand for the applause. True Blue American Dec 2022 #12
It's not merely ironic that isolationists and Nazi sympathizers prior to and during WW2 lees1975 Dec 2022 #16
The Repugs are whining about "giving" money and weapons to Ukraine. I'm calling BULLSHIT! flashman13 Dec 2022 #15

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. and 3. They can't stand for Biden to have any win, any honor, any success, any friends
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:43 PM
Dec 2022

They cultivate hate, envy, greed, ignorance, and resentment. Sore losers everyone. They have to demonize Biden so their criminal Loser doesn't look so bad. They make all Dems wrong to make themselves feel right. They are liars, corrupt, and selfish.

PortTack

(32,762 posts)
5. The bill just passed has 43 billion in aide for Ukraine. Enough for the next year.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:48 PM
Dec 2022

Plus the top gop house ways and means cmte member claims most republicans support the war effort. There will be enough for more funding to pass if needed.

Turtle said on the senate floor that aide to Ukraine is a major priority. So no problem in the senate

Omnipresent

(5,708 posts)
6. Their favorite excuse is that they don't want to keep giving...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:48 PM
Dec 2022

Billions of dollars in defense aid to Ukraine.

It not like we don’t do this for other countries already, like Israel.

lees1975

(3,850 posts)
7. I'm in favor of unrestricted, unconditional aid to Ukraine.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 03:24 PM
Dec 2022

Do a "Lend-Lease" deal, and keep it coming. No accounting necessary, ship whatever they ask for. We have a common interest, the want to keep their sovereignty and freedom, and we gain by defeating Russia on their doorstep without a single American military loss. It's a drop in the bucket compared to our defense spending anyway, provides jobs. Of course, strong arming the Russians to the negotiating table, which we could do, and making them give back the Donbas, Crimea and pay for their damage, which we could also do, would be the better way to go.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
23. Three billion a year goes to Israel.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 09:05 AM
Dec 2022

I really need to do some research into how much we spend on our own needy and destitute. Because I am betting it is not three billion dollars. I am betting it is not even close. Rethugs do not want to aid anyone. They want everyone to be indebted to them. They want everyone to worship them. When that does not happen, they complain mightily. Which is why they get so pissed when anyone with a brain points out how we are doing now as opposed to three years ago (give or take). They don't want the US to get ahead. They want themselves to get ahead and then control everything. That is a dictatorship/oligarchy. That is what they want and they are no longer even remotely subtle about it. They hate Zelensky because he is not a dictator. They love Putin because he is.

FoggyLake

(59 posts)
9. They are morally bankrupt and...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 03:50 PM
Dec 2022

I know that at least the two main harpies never finished their education. Their tiny brains cannot process what's really at stake here.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
10. MAGA GOP is all in on Putin and now apparently Iran's clerics.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 04:03 PM
Dec 2022

As much as we can we need to foster Pro Alliance GOP members for bipartisan bills on Ukraine. It is in the interest of democracy, human rights and our clear security interest.
I am thankful for the GOP members who support NATO and Ukraine.

For MAGA GOP, I hope for nothing but kicking their traitorous asses at election time. They seek to have our Country bow to the rapists in the Kremlin and in Tehran.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
11. The parallels to the WWII era stand out to me.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 04:25 PM
Dec 2022

Hitler and the Nazis had their supporters among well known Americans (Lindbergh, Ford), Congress members, financial firms (Prescott Bush and the Harrimans), and ordinary people.





lees1975

(3,850 posts)
16. It's not merely ironic that isolationists and Nazi sympathizers prior to and during WW2
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:49 PM
Dec 2022

were also mostly Republican.

Hitler's regime enriched the corporate wealthy and banking class in Germany beyond their wildest expectations and that's what the Republicans in this country have their eye on, more than individual freedom, which is something from which they can't profiteer. So they are trying to get rid of it.

flashman13

(664 posts)
15. The Repugs are whining about "giving" money and weapons to Ukraine. I'm calling BULLSHIT!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 06:02 PM
Dec 2022

The point that needs to be made to Hawley and the rest of the asshole Repug whiners is that UKRAINE IS SUPPLYING THE WARM BODIES. UKRAINIANES ARE THE ONES DYING. Ukrainian cities are being razed to the ground.. Until the Repugs have some skin in the game they need to shut the fuck up!

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