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(47,538 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 12:10 AM Jan 2023

Noonan: The Half-Madness of Prince Harry

Prince Harry’s book is odd. There’s even something half-mad about it.

He opens with a dramatic meeting at Frogmore, his former mansion on the grounds of Windsor. It is just after the death of Prince Philip, Harry’s paternal grandfather. For months Harry has been estranged from his father, Charles, and his brother, William—a “full-scale public rupture.” Harry has flown in from America and requested a meeting. The day is overcast, chilly. Charles and William arrive late looking “grim, almost menacing,” and “tightly aligned.” “They’d come ready for a fight.” Harry is tongue-tied, vulnerable, leaves heartbroken. “I wanted peace. I wanted it more than anything.”

You feel such sympathy. What could have driven them so far apart? Why are Charles and William so cold? Then you realize, wait—Philip died just a month after the Oprah interview in which Harry rather coolly portrayed his family as remote and hapless puppets and implied they were racist. Harry forgets, in the opening, to tell us that part. But you can see how it might have left Charles and William a little indignant.

This is the book’s great flaw, that Harry doesn’t always play it straight, that he thinks “my truth” is as good as the truth. There are other flaws, and they grate. There’s a heightened-ness to his language—he never leaves a place; he flees it “in fear for our sanity and physical safety.” He often finds his wife “sobbing uncontrollably” on the floor and the stairs, mostly over what he fails to realize are trivial things. He is grandiose: “My mother was a princess, named after a goddess.” “How would I be remembered by history? For the headlines? Or for who I actually was?” Lord, he was an attractive man fifth in line for a largely ceremonial European throne; it would hardly remember him at all. (Unless he wrote a scalding book and destabilized the monarchy!) He repeatedly points out that he’s a Windsor and of royal blood. His title means a lot to him. He is exhibitionistic: “My penis was oscillating between extremely sensitive and borderline traumatized.” (Frostbite.)

(snip)

Harry’s anecdotes tend to undermine the institution of the monarchy. When he was a teenager Britain’s biggest tabloid told the palace it had evidence he was doing drugs. In fact, as Harry tells us candidly, he did do drugs when he was young. The palace, no doubt knowing this, opted to “play ball” with the newspaper and not deny all aspects of the story. This made Harry feel thrown under the bus.

(snip)

Harry accuses the tabloids of violating his privacy, and no doubt they often did. What is almost unbelievable is that he is so unmoored and destabilized by this inevitable aspect of fame, especially royal fame. He implies he left Britain primarily because of the newspapers and their criticism of his wife. But the odd, half-mad thing about this book is that in it he violates his own privacy, and that of others, more than Fleet Street ever could.

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https://archive.ph/7pLI6#selection-423.0-427.142

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A different review commented that the supposedly offensive remarks of the skin color of the future son is never mentioned in the book.

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Noonan: The Half-Madness of Prince Harry (Original Post) question everything Jan 2023 OP
Peggy Noonan getting a nod on DU. DURHAM D Jan 2023 #1
Nooner is still at it. live love laugh Jan 2023 #2
Noonan. Ugh. LakeArenal Jan 2023 #3
I would not believe a goddam word Noonan writes lapfog_1 Jan 2023 #4
This is America phoenix75 Jan 2023 #5
Good question. Many here raved about the Netflix series and the Oprah interview question everything Jan 2023 #7
No offense was intended my friend! phoenix75 Jan 2023 #10
None taken. I was going to counter ask why the fascination with the Kardashians question everything Jan 2023 #12
Saw a post the other day that sums it up for me..5 things I want to hear less of in '23 PortTack Jan 2023 #13
Yuck. Peggy Noonan. Sky Jewels Jan 2023 #6
You don't have to read it, you know. question everything Jan 2023 #8
One does not have to read peggy to want to throw up. Just seeing her name. . . niyad Jan 2023 #9
You see Peggy, you can violate your own privacy, it's your decision. dem4decades Jan 2023 #11
Exactly right. Redleg Jan 2023 #20
I ordered the book but it hasn't arrived yet LittleGirl Jan 2023 #14
+1 ShazzieB Jan 2023 #16
LOLOL Skittles Jan 2023 #24
Over and out? LittleGirl Jan 2023 #26
My thoughts. 1) My sympathies are with Harry, but I have better things to worry about. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2023 #15
Not that it matters much but you may be interested in a column that was praised here question everything Jan 2023 #19
To be fair to Peggy, many Reagan era Republicans are appalled by Trump Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2023 #22
For decades I've been doing the opposite of Noonan's directives. Paladin Jan 2023 #17
And a British journalist recently wrote: with so much misery in the world, this is what important? question everything Jan 2023 #18
thank you Skittles Jan 2023 #25
Harry might be half, but Peg is the whole thing! maspaha Jan 2023 #21
anyone else really, really sick of Harry and Meghan? Skittles Jan 2023 #23
Post removed Post removed Jan 2023 #27

phoenix75

(290 posts)
5. This is America
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 12:29 AM
Jan 2023

and we are not subjects of the British crown on this side of the pond. So why all the media fascination with Harry?
(asking for a friend)

question everything

(47,538 posts)
7. Good question. Many here raved about the Netflix series and the Oprah interview
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 12:35 AM
Jan 2023

and, recently, some mentioned all the "great" reviews of the book.

This is why I posted this and it is unfortunate that many just "kill the messenger" instead of actually reading the post.

And last week "60 minutes" that honorable program dedicated the whole hour to interview and also on CNN.

And as other reviews noted: he complained about tabloids going after him and his family while... going just the same.

phoenix75

(290 posts)
10. No offense was intended my friend!
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 12:44 AM
Jan 2023

I am simply trying to understand why Americans are so enthralled about British royalty.
Peace Love and Joy 🙏

question everything

(47,538 posts)
12. None taken. I was going to counter ask why the fascination with the Kardashians
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 01:04 AM
Jan 2023

Bill Maher recently commented that the are our royalty.

Or even fascination with other celebrities in sport and in the entertainment industries.

What talents did GA Senatorial candidate Walker have, besides being a football star?

The sad reality is that we love to fawn over celebrities. I think something similar was with Princess Diana.


PortTack

(32,797 posts)
13. Saw a post the other day that sums it up for me..5 things I want to hear less of in '23
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 02:07 AM
Jan 2023

#2 was harry and meghan!

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
11. You see Peggy, you can violate your own privacy, it's your decision.
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 12:45 AM
Jan 2023

Now climb back into the hole you climbed out of.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
14. I ordered the book but it hasn't arrived yet
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 02:12 AM
Jan 2023

Anyway, Harry is entitled to share his side of the story. I've watched the interviews and Netflix series.

Harry is entitled to share that the "unnamed source" from Buckingham palace were his family planting stories and lies to the tabloids! I would be furious too because that's what abusers do. They lie about you so that you look bad. The unnamed sources are Camila, William and the freaking King and their staff.

He's fighting the battle for his future. He's trying to stop the madness with the palace and the press. If you are against Harry and Meghan, then you've been brainwashed by the tabloids and are not "hearing" what he's saying. If you're against Harry and Meghan, you have proved his point.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
26. Over and out?
Tue Jan 17, 2023, 06:59 AM
Jan 2023

Really? I am married to a Brit who does not gaf about the monarchy but your response is interesting. If you disagree you should explain the Lolol. Or just ignore me.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
15. My thoughts. 1) My sympathies are with Harry, but I have better things to worry about.
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 02:28 AM
Jan 2023

2) I'd be curious - if you took a survey, a) how many Americans could correctly identify the reigning British monarch b) how many Americans could name the current British PM, and c) how many Americans understand which one actually oversees the British government.

3) I didn't realize Peggy could write anything without lapsing into memories of what a wonderful guy Dutch was......

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
22. To be fair to Peggy, many Reagan era Republicans are appalled by Trump
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 08:04 PM
Jan 2023

Point taken - my criticism of Noonan may have been unfair.

Paladin

(28,276 posts)
17. For decades I've been doing the opposite of Noonan's directives.
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 07:25 AM
Jan 2023

Not this time. I'll stick with my intentions of avoiding Harry's book. And the inevitable movie. Way too many problems here at home to deal with. And life's too short.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
25. thank you
Tue Jan 17, 2023, 04:56 AM
Jan 2023

I'm glad my English mum did not live to see those two whining on American TV during a pandemic, it would have broken her heart

maspaha

(225 posts)
21. Harry might be half, but Peg is the whole thing!
Mon Jan 16, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jan 2023

If Harry is half crazy, then Peg is completely coo-coo for cocoa puffs! If Harry’s only telling half the truth, ya know, like his side of his story, then Peg’s a known liar for amplify the GOP lies that led the US into a 20+ year war in the Middle East.

Peggy, shut up! Nobody dies reading Harry’s book!

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
23. anyone else really, really sick of Harry and Meghan?
Tue Jan 17, 2023, 04:53 AM
Jan 2023

they hate invasion of privacy but plaster themselves everywhere for money

disgusting

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