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LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 12:50 PM May 2023

Timothy McVeigh's Dreams Are Coming True

Timothy McVeigh, the right-wing terrorist who killed 168 people in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, cared about one issue above all others: guns. To him, guns were synonymous with freedom, and any government attempt to regulate them meant incipient tyranny.

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Reading Toobin’s book, it’s startling to realize how much McVeigh’s cause has advanced in the decades since his 2001 execution. McVeigh, who was a member of the K.K.K. and harbored a deep resentment of women, hoped that blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building would inspire an army of followers to make war on the government. This didn’t happen immediately, although, as the historian Kathleen Belew has written, there was a wave of militia and white supremacist violence in the bombing’s aftermath. But today, an often-inchoate movement of people who share many of McVeigh’s views is waging what increasingly looks like a low-level insurgency against the rest of us.

Not all mass shootings are ideologically motivated — far from it. But when there is an ideology involved, it’s usually a far-right one. “All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds,” said a February report from the Anti-Defamation League. Sixty percent of these deaths came from two mass shootings, in Buffalo and Colorado Springs.

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It’s hard to think of a historical precedent for a society allowing itself to be terrorized in the way we have. The normalization of both right-wing terrorism and periodic mass shootings by deranged loners is possible only because McVeigh’s views have been mainstreamed.


what a chilling reality
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Timothy McVeigh's Dreams Are Coming True (Original Post) LymphocyteLover May 2023 OP
In addition to making the AR-15 assault rifle our national gun... Blue Owl May 2023 #1
OMG! but, I'm sure MTG would like to LymphocyteLover May 2023 #4
They're too cowardly to go up against any organization that has tanks, artillery, and bombers. Aristus May 2023 #2
Killing babies is just fine with McVeigh's 'dream' and in their practice. keithbvadu2 May 2023 #3
Good God, I remember that bombing as if it were yesterday. BigDemVoter May 2023 #5
yes, I remember it too LymphocyteLover May 2023 #7
Charles Manson's Dreams Coming True too stuffmatters May 2023 #6

Blue Owl

(50,271 posts)
1. In addition to making the AR-15 assault rifle our national gun...
Tue May 9, 2023, 01:17 PM
May 2023

When are the depraved, murder-enabling GOP lunatics gonna make "Timmy McVeigh Day" our next national holiday?

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
2. They're too cowardly to go up against any organization that has tanks, artillery, and bombers.
Tue May 9, 2023, 01:46 PM
May 2023

But they'll shoot children, no problem.

God, what monsters. Just like McVey.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
5. Good God, I remember that bombing as if it were yesterday.
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:55 PM
May 2023

I don't think I ever did realize McVeigh's obsession with guns, although I certainly should have. What a horrible, horrible person McVeigh was.

LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
7. yes, I remember it too
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:53 PM
May 2023

I was working for the Federal government and they erected concrete barriers outside our building to prevent vehicles to get close and set off bombs, as well as other security measures. Of course, it got much much worse after 9/11.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
6. Charles Manson's Dreams Coming True too
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:50 PM
May 2023

Mass slaughter to incite race/civil war (Helter Skelter) is textbook for white supremacist terrorism.

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