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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,958 posts)
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 03:49 PM Aug 2023

U.S. v. Trump Will Be the Most Important Case in Our Nation's History

Prof. Hasen is the author of the Election Law Blog which is a great source of information on election law issues and litigation. I agree with Professor Hasen on the importance of this indictment



https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/trump-trial-2024-historic-jack-smith-indictment.html

Forget hush money payments to porn stars hidden as business expenses. Forget showing off classified documents about Iran attack plans to visitors, and then ordering the pool guy to erase the security tapes revealing that he was still holding on to documents that he had promised to return. Forget even corrupt attempts to interfere with election results in Georgia in 2020.

The federal indictment just handed down by special counsel Jack Smith is not only the most important indictment by far of former President Donald Trump. It is perhaps the most important indictment ever handed down to safeguard American democracy and the rule of law in any U.S. court against anyone.

For those who have been closely following Trump’s attempt to subvert the results of the 2020 election, there was little new information contained in the indictment. In straightforward language with mountains of evidence, the 45-page document explains how Trump, acting with six (so far unnamed, but easily recognizable) co-conspirators, engaged in a scheme to repeatedly make false claims that the 2020 election was stolen or rigged, and to use those false claims as a predicate to try to steal the election. The means of election theft were national, not just confined to one state, as in the expected Georgia prosecution. And they were technical—submitting alternative slates of presidential electors to Congress, and arguing that state legislatures had powers under the Constitution and an old federal law, the Electoral Count Act, to ignore the will of the state’s voters. But Trump’s corrupt intent was clear: He was repeatedly told that the election was not stolen, and he knew that no evidence supported his outrageous claims of ballot tampering. He nonetheless allegedly tried to pressure state legislators, state election officials, Department of Justice officials, and his own vice president to manipulate these arcane, complex election rules to turn himself from an election loser into an election winner. That’s the definition of election subversion......

Putting Trump before a jury, if the case can get that far before the 2024 elections, is not certain to yield a conviction. It carries risks. But as I wrote last year in the New York Times, the risks to our system of government of not prosecuting Donald Trump are greater than the risks of prosecuting him.

It’s not hyperbole to say that the conduct of this prosecution will greatly influence whether the U.S. remains a thriving democracy after 2024.

If TFG is re-elected, we can kiss our democratic form of government goodbye
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U.S. v. Trump Will Be the Most Important Case in Our Nation's History (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 OP
Yep, and we can thank Jack and team for it. republianmushroom Aug 2023 #1
And if Bush vs Gore had gone the other way, we wouldn't even be here right now. Aristus Aug 2023 #2

Aristus

(72,206 posts)
2. And if Bush vs Gore had gone the other way, we wouldn't even be here right now.
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 08:05 PM
Aug 2023

We'd be living in a much cooler country. Cooler climatically, socially, and pop-culturally.

Five corrupt, bastardized votes separate us from the country we should have been.

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