Dear Millennials: I'm sorry we didn't stop them
Dear Millennials:
Back in the 1980s a lot of us worked like hell to try to stop the Reagan revolution. We failed. This may be our last chance to save American democracy and the American middle-class.
When my boomer generation was the same average age as your millennial generation is today, back in 1990, our generation held 21.3% of the nation’s wealth. Louise and I shared in that wealth; although we were still in our 30s, in 1990 we owned a profitable small business (our fourth) and a nice home in suburban Atlanta.
That was, in fact, the “American dream.” It was normal then. My dad (born 1928), who worked in a tool-and-die shop, was able to buy a house, a new car every two years, and take a two-week vacation every year because the middle class in America before Reagan had a pretty damn good life. He retired in the 1990s with a full pension that let him and my mom travel the world.
Your generation today, in contrast, is about the same number of people but holds only 4.6% of the nation’s wealth and, if you’re the same age I was in 1990, you’re most likely struggling to own a home, are deeply in debt, and find it nearly impossible to start a small business.
https://www.alternet.org/alternet-exclusives/dear-millenials-i-m-sorry-we-didn-t-stop-them/
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BeyondGeography
(40,413 posts)Loaded with (unhappy) facts.
Farmer-Rick
(11,730 posts)In the 1980 presidential election, PATCO (along with the Teamsters and the Air Line Pilots Association) refused to back President Jimmy Carter, instead endorsing Republican Party candidate Ronald Reagan.
Why????? They were partly responsible for their own demise.
Forget unions, they are too easily manipulated and swayed by money. The only way out of this capitalist hell hole of a stagnate and destructive economy is to get rid of our current economic system.
But in the mean time, unions could lift up our American middle class.
moniss
(7,037 posts)with the blue collar backlash against the social changes of the '60's and then the '70's inflation and job losses. So here came St. Ronnie the actor acting the part of "being for them" when it was all a sham in order to keep selling out the middle class and crapping on those under the "middle".
mopinko
(72,227 posts)i was the only woman, and there were only white ppl in my suburban local. when i moved to the city, there were a couple dozen women in the carpenters and cabinet builders unions.
what i saw was a weakening of the construction unions because they were blocking black, brown and women new members. there were systemic road blocks already. 1 woman sued to have her sewing classes in hs counted just like a shop class would.
then there was the sexual harassment…
those ppl who were blocked out accepted less money just to work. some were schlocks, but many were good.
union house builders became rare, and union remodelers unheard of.
affirmative action helped that a lot, til st ronnie shot a hole it in.
we WERE in the streets. in fact, several of us started a support org that celebrates it’s 40th year this year. sadly, we all wish we had worked ourselves out of a job.
if stupid wypipo ever figure out the shell game, we might just make it.
these days i have my doubts.
moniss
(7,037 posts)I used to be at Ford, Chrysler and GM in the '70's, '80's and '90's and those same attitudes were very strong. In fact I can remember one of the huge cafeterias at Chrysler on 8 Mile Road in Warren, MI. It was shocking to me to walk in to the packed cafeteria with many hundreds of workers having a meal and seeing the racial and gender splits. The whites were all in one area, the blacks in another, the Latinos in another. Then within those groups the men and women were similarly well separated. Crazy to see it and in my mind I instantly thought how crazy it is that they all worked together on the same lines, same company, same union but they didn't even share a sandwich with each other.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,750 posts)As a shop steward, I would explain to them that Republicans are the one trying to take away our hard won benefits. It often fell on deaf ears.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,122 posts)
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,750 posts)
Hiawatha Pete
(2,024 posts)REAGAN ADMINISTRATION`S DEATH THREAT TO AMTRAK MAKES NO FISCAL SENSE:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-05-12-8501290967-story.html
Road/air subsidies: huge, growing & safe; Amtrak’s are small, shrinking & attacked:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150518001059/https://www.allaboardohio.org/2012/09/21/road-air-subsidies-huge-growing-safe-amtraks-are-small-shrinking-attacked
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)My dad had always voted Democratic, as did everyone in the family. When you work for the airlines, you get discount passes to fly. I think we paid something like 5% of the face value of the ticket. This was a huge deal for our family, since we had relatives to visit on the other side of the country. Jimmy Carter said something about the discount on the tickets being considered taxable income.
My dad belonged the the IAM, the International Association of Machinists And because of this ticket issue, the union told them not to vote for Carter. They also noted that Reagan would be very pro union because he was once president of the Screen Actors Guild. My dad voted for Reagan, only once and he soon regretted it.
raising2moredems
(732 posts)Raygun and his minions yelled, cried, screamed, bemoaned the "welfare queen". Over-inflating how much the woman WHO WAS CAUGHT AND CONVICTED stole. Played the racist card to a T and crawled into bed with the religious nuts/theocrats. Or in other words, disaffected whites of which the numbers peaked in 2016 (magat time, not Miller Time).
My grandpa voted for raygun as he was from our area (spit, puke). Grandpa was union as well as a former farmer. Well it took until 2004 when grandpa finally realized the puke party didn't give a flying sh*t about farmers.
Skittles
(163,383 posts)he was DISGUSTING
niyad
(123,229 posts)
Aviation Pro
(14,202 posts)Vote.
liberalla
(10,402 posts)They can kick some serious butt, and I hope they do!
Abortion
Climate change
Gun Control
Democracy/Voting rights
There's a lot to motivate them for!
brush
(59,549 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 13, 2023, 12:14 PM - Edit history (4)
demonstrate and protest against the proto-fascist of the Reagan era. Why the Black Panther Party of California went to the state capitol armed when Reagan was governor to protest the brutal treatment Black people were experiencing from the Oakland Police Dept.
There were the Students for a Democratic Society, there were all the anti-war groups of the New Left movement of the '60s, there was Abbey Hoffman and the Yippies/the Chicago Seven trial resulting from the huge anti-war protests at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968.
The emerging environmental consciousness movement resulted in "Earth Day" in 1970, the last year of the decade. Credit has to go where credit is due.
The progressive Boomers fought back all right and perhaps that's why the wealth was still shared...and much of the protesting was against the conservative side of the generation itself, the young republicans who sided with Reagan, as did some unions surprisingly, and became the Newt Gingrich's Project for a New America Century faction of the '90s that further expanded the wealth and power transference upward into the W Bush years of the early 2000s.
Sad to say the generations that came after the Boomers, the GenXers and Millennials didn't follow the protest tradition of young boomers. The young , present-day Zoomers get it though, thank God.
Evolve Dammit
(20,502 posts)brush
(59,549 posts)the anti-democracy, neo-fascist, trumpers. It'll be hard but I can't believe that the nation will re-elect that soon-to-be felon to the presidency again.
Progressive Dems, women still pissed about Roe being rescinded, Black people and other POCs, suburban soccer moms, the LGBTQ+ community and sensible Indies (Indies are now 50 percent of the electorate)...this coalition outnumbers the magats so we have to go hard to get out our votes, and we will defeat trump and probably take back the House. The Senate will be touch and go but we've got a chance to keep it at least to 50-50.
Evolve Dammit
(20,502 posts)
brakester
(321 posts)Of course I lived that history and found your account to be accurate. For the generations that came after us, this is very helpful since a truth-filled knowledge of history should be a main component for all citizens' opinions/philosophies.
Especially when I encounter surprising rancor against the whole baby-boomer generation!!
I am proud of the compassion and community spirit our generation gave to our country. I understand there are always backlashes to the past, but hey, do something about it rather than bad-mouthing us.
I, also, am heartened by the spirit of present generation. I have a whole community of them as friends and find a deep bond with them. Age disappears as a barrier, as it should!
brush
(59,549 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 13, 2023, 07:00 PM - Edit history (1)
the compassion and community spirit of the progressive faction of our generation. I'm also proud of the anti-war, protest tradition and political awareness of our times, which is now called being "woke" and thanks to that bastard DeSantis, magats use it as a pejorative that they can't even define. It is not.
Also the emergence back then of environmental consciousness and understanding that we have to take care of the planet. That is huge and extremely important now.
progressoid
(51,266 posts)I'm a tail-end boomer and watched as lots of us (boomers) voted for Reagan. TWICE.
Sure, boomers protested the war, race inequality etc. That was in the 60's. By the 80's, the war was over and greed was good. A lot of boomers became Reagan Democrats. Hippies became yuppies.
GenXers and Millennials did protest. The Battle of Seattle, Occupy Wall Street, and so on wasn't just against the right and Reagonomics. It was also in response to the effects of Neoliberalism, The DLC, etc.
Then there was the Anti-Nuke marches, the march for Women’s lives, the Million Man March, The Million Woman March, AIDS Protests at the NIH, March on Washington for Lesbian, Gay, and Bi Equal Rights and Liberation, etc.
Of course, things have changed. I have Millennial children. Interestingly, they don't engage in the "protest tradition" of our generation. As this article states, "showing up” for a cause often doesn’t mean showing up in person.
https://www.ypulse.com/article/2020/07/14/this-is-how-gen-z-millennials-have-changed-activism/
brush
(59,549 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:25 AM - Edit history (1)
of the boomer generation itself? The negative perception and rancor directed towards the entire boomer generation is inaccurate and wrong as progressive boomers went on to participate in countless protests in the '80s, '90s and '00s. I myself protested in Manhattan in '03 against the Iraq war, and also journeyed to DC to do the same. And I wasn't the only boomer whose sense of justice and democracy was developed in the '60s and continues to this day, which is why I'm on DU.
I live in Vegas now and have joined protests at the Federal Building here and against trump's casino here before the pandemic. Many of us didn't forget what we stood for to become greedy yuppies.
Thank God some GenXers and Millennials joined the movement when they did.
There seems to a lot of promise among the Zoomers, especially on environmental issues...that consciouness started btw in the '60s and resulted in the nationwide "Earth Day" action in '70, the last year of that decade.
question everything
(50,040 posts)I don't know if this was a natural evolution regardless of who was in power.
Globalization?
Our parents participated in the post war economic boom. Japan and germany were destroyed, Europe was in ruin so we were it as far as manufacturing went. And, of course, union.
But eventually the countries recovered and some offered cheaper labor so we started outsourcing.
And, yes, we liked cheap "stuff" that was made overseas. So much cheaper than union made in America.
And we liked to get cheap "stuff" at the big box of Walmart while losing main street small businesses.
To me, what marked the Reagan years was that while in previous years inventors and entrepreneurs made the millions, win or lose, in the 80s it was investor bankers and merger lawyers with nothing to lose.
1WorldHope
(1,129 posts)BlueIn_W_Pa
(842 posts)Laissez-faire economics proposes that continued economic growth will lead to technological innovation, expansion of the free market, and limited state interference.
further pushed by Bush Sr and adopted by the (D) party with Clinton and his two terms.
brakester
(321 posts)A sign that any philosophy begins to rot from the inside and needs refreshing is when those holding those ideas get corrupted by power.
True laissez-faire Capitalism combined with democracy and democratic socialism is a darned good system!
But, now it is corrupt and needs fresh input to continue to serve its people well.
Currently, Capitalism is dominated by insular and bloated corporations that game the system to protect their own behinds and leach off the middle and lower classes, leaving most of us poorer and less free.
Here's an analogy I remember from one of my wise history teachers.
To see which group dominates in a society look at their architecture. In the middle ages, the landscape consisted of a few large castles and many simple dwellings by the citizens. Next, the church exhibited its authority by building elaborate buildings that reached to the sky while most citizens lived modestly. When central governments became powerful, the taller and wealthier structures belonged to them. In the present day, giant American corporations dominate the skies. They generate and consolidate immense fortunes and can supplant governing authority. Look at Abu Dhabi where immensely creative (and very tall) structures dominate, where they air-condition the outdoors (!) and American CEOs who routinely thumb their noses at law and order.
keep_left
(2,840 posts)...and any idiot could see that those days were indeed coming, and soon. By the mid-'70s, the Japanese were starting to make significant progress in their export of high-technology items like electronics and cameras. That only intensified in the '80s with auto manufacturing. Yet most American planners, particularly those who were neoliberal Reaganites, assured their fellow Americans that everything would be fine; we would be happy as workers in a service economy.
erronis
(18,994 posts)I also remember in the 50s that the "American" automobile was considered the top of the line. Big, finny, flashy. European and Japanese cars that were starting to be seen on the streets were considered flimsy, rust-buckes, low power, etc. (Not talking so much about the few Mercedes/Jaguars but they had their many issues too.)
Then the Japanese, Koreans, Europeans improved their models and the fortunes switched. The American beasts started to become the undesirables.
Another factor is how much of the world provides good and free/inexpensive healthcare for everyone and the US is burdened with the costs of the insurance scalpers - the high administrative costs and paying for lobbyists to keep them in business.
Good opinion (yours), IMHO.
SharonAnn
(14,018 posts)
Pinback
(13,148 posts)Hartmann does an excellent job of tracing the horrific legacy left by the Reagan Devolution, step by devastating step.
Those who pretend market forces solve everything, or that “it’s always been like this,” are either trying to pull the wool over your eyes or being ignorant of recent history.
ananda
(31,510 posts)the country and planet are much worse off
than when I entered it.
cilla4progress
(26,302 posts)today's young people - whatever name we've bestowed...Millenials, Zoomers, or GenZ.. in their sincere, plaintive, and EFFECTIVE work at transforming our society to one that works for ALL ‐ as it should and MUST!
NOW is the moment.
The least we can do.... work to leave the world a better place.
They deserve and have earned our unequivocal support.
MichMan
(14,873 posts)Not only that, but the House was also under Democratic control his entire presidency.
Plenty of time to have done something about it in all that time.
thucythucy
(8,853 posts)and the Supreme Court--as stacked by Nixon--was already leaning to the right.
Tip O'Neal fought like hell to stop the Reagan agenda, as did Senators Kennedy and Harkin and others, unfortunately the mass of the general public bought into Reagan's "aw shucks I'd like to have a beer with him persona," especially after he survived an assassination attempt. "Morning in America" and all that. The national media doted on everything Reagan did, ignoring the corruption and downright incompetence of his regime.
Lots of folks were also busy trying to survive the AIDS epidemic, which wiped out a generation of activists, and to prevent an outright invasion of Central America. They were successful in stopping Reagan and Haig from dragging us into another Vietnam, but that too took an enormous effort.
Activism against the powers that be and entrenched wealth has always been difficult. I imagine fifty years from now there will be some who will accuse you of not doing enough to stop our current drift towards disaster. I wonder what your reaction will be.
MichMan
(14,873 posts)By passing it? If O'Neal caved, that's on him and the rest of the House. They were hardly the innocent bystanders some make them out to be. There have been multiple times since then when anything Reagan did could have been reversed, but wasn't. I guess people can still Keep blaming Reagan for the next 35 years.
I'm 65 years old. I really don't give a damn what anyone accuses me of not doing 50 years from now. I'll never know anyway.
thucythucy
(8,853 posts)Speaker O'Neill begged his members to vote against the bill. He acknowledged that members were receiving calls and letters running ten to one and more to "support the president." This was in the aftermath of the shooting, when there was a 9-11 type response to a national trauma. He still urged them to do the right thing.
That hardly seems like "caving" to me. It doesn't reflect well on the Democrats who voted for the budget, but I don't blame that on O'Neill.
After the vote, my partner was invited into O'Neill's office, along with other disability advocates. He openly wept about the result. He told her, "The haters have won."
Reagan was indeed responsible for much misery, the aftermath of which is still with us. The AIDS epidemic, which Reagan ignored for years, left an incredible trail of devestation. His tax cuts for the rich began our "trickle down" cascade of endless budget shortfalls. His support of the Contras and the death squads in El Salvador and Guatemala destablized much of Central America, which has a direct link to our immigration issues today. His attacks on higher education, including funding for students and subsidies to colleges and universities, are directly linked to today's college debt crisis. And so on and so forth.
I hope people do blame Reagan for decades to come, since he deserves it. As does Bush II for the disaster in Iraq. Is there a statute of limitations on such behavior? One major problem with politics today is our ridiculously short national attention span. We are, as Gore Vidal so aptly labeled us, "the United States of Amnesia."
I thought you were younger. It seems at sixty-five then you must have been integrally involved in the struggles of the past 35 years, so I thank you. I wonder though what turning points you witnessed, when the tide might have been turned but Democrats and progressives refused to act.
BlueIn_W_Pa
(842 posts)ie neoliberalism
Reagan and Thatcher started "neoliberalism", but it took Clinton for people to not even question the idea anymore.
thucythucy
(8,853 posts)Clinton's first priority when he entered the White House was an attempt at health care reform, for which he was crucified by the media and punished by the voters. The result was that both the House and Senate were controlled by Republicans during the last six years of his administration, with Newt Gingrich as Speaker. GOP control of Congress continued through the first years of Bush II. Rather difficult to push through anything approaching a progressive agenda when the reactionairies have that much power, including the power to draft the budget.
It also didn't help to have those on the supposed left taking potshots at the party while the right held that power. For instance, labeling Al Gore a "faux environmentalist" or criticising feminists for holding "the progressive agenda hostage" to the issue of abortion during the campaigns of 2000, 2004 and onward was hardly a productive strategy. Telling women voters that the threat to Roe was "all hype" was hardly a great way to inspire them to get out the vote. Yet that's what folks like Nader and Sarandon and others were saying, and look where that's led us.
I think bashing Democrats on a Democratic discussion board is yet another instance of our willingness to eat our own. Maybe it's time instead to move on to confront the challenges at hand?
BlueIn_W_Pa
(842 posts)but understanding what happened. The thread an OP was about economics, not all the social issues you spoke to (and I happen to agree with you).
Neoliberalism is an economic policy empowering globalists and corporations over workers, and this was certainly the case for all presidents from Reagan onward including Clinton and Obama...
wryter2000
(47,802 posts)Only now do the people in charge say trickle down doesn’t work. It was gospel for decades.
KS Toronado
(21,014 posts)as part of the DNC's 2024 platform. We should be broadcasting all the negative aspects of "trickle down"
and the "Why Rs love it" over & over again until we get middle of the road Rs to question why they vote R.
wryter2000
(47,802 posts)“Are you tired of only getting a trickle?”
KS Toronado
(21,014 posts)But I'm sick and tired of seeing so many people live paycheck to paycheck with little or no savings. Plus we'll never
get the minimum wage up to $15 an hour until after the 2024 election.
AZ8theist
(6,687 posts)..but it wasn't money. It was a yellow liquid from the oligarchs, and I ain't talkin' Bud Light.
FakeNoose
(37,137 posts)Thanks Thom Hartmann
Archived No Paywall link: https://archive.ph/ScCBz
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)I couldn't get into the one in the OP. 
TygrBright
(21,104 posts)It's really important to recognize that if the GOP could keep all the brown, foreign, female, and 'different' people in their "places" without harming the white middle class, they'd gladly do it, and accept the plaudits of grateful white people.
The problems started when all those brown, foreign, female, different, etc., people started getting legal access to the rights and privileges white people had reserved exclusively to themselves all along.
Then it became IMPERATIVE to destroy those things, so that the brown, foreign, female, etc. people couldn't have them. And if that meant trashing things for the white middle class, well, they'd understand and be okay with it because they know how much more important it is to keep "those people" down FIRST. Then they can go about restoring privileges just for white middle class people.
That's the promise of the GOP.
Take it to the bank.
Or the voting booth.
cynically,
Bright
willamette
(182 posts)I'm 72. I learned about the swimming pools, and the lop-sided percentages of who was allowed to learn how to swim during the last couple of years, as some of the censorship screens fractured. This in spite of being denied entrance to our local pool, in the 1950's, after I was already in the locker room taking my shoes off. My sister and I were kicked out, "You're Jewish, aren't you?"
...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/04/black-children-swimming-drownings-segregation
...
In cities, officials in the south took the threat of white Americans and black Americans swimming together seriously. Rather than risk mixing people of different races in the pool, public swimming pools in the south were closed down altogether.
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Town after town in the south filled their pools with dirt, cemented them up, sometimes even bulldozed them. If desegregation meant equal access to public goods, then floor line equality – where nobody had access to anything – was seen as the preferable path.
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YMCA boom made segregation a private practice
As public pools were drained, the city sidestepped new laws by immediately enacting a secret plan it had entered into with a formerly small organization – the town’s local YMCA.
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In exchange for taking up such a role, the city offered the YMCA tax exemptions, free water for its pools, free use of parks and reduced sales of property. Membership at the YMCA exploded. Although the city was one-third black at the time, only one out of every nine of its members was black, with the remaining eight white.
...
Very good Guardian article, well worth reading the whole thing.
Pinback
(13,148 posts)brush
(59,549 posts)the progressive, protest part of that generation that resisted the war and the proto-fascists of the Reagan era as California governor, then president.
BlueIn_W_Pa
(842 posts)Destroying the US manufacturing base and workforce because of a "threat" to whiteness has nothing to do with it.
It was the wealthy elite and their corporations waging class warfare, and then brought race into it to keep everyone else bickering while they stole the wealth. Started with Reagan and Bush, and then put into play and accepted by Clinton.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,203 posts)they also have the ability to control their future like few groups before them - they CONTROL the voting majority. A suggestion - VOTE out Republicans everywhere and watch your life improve dramatically.
George McGovern
(6,050 posts)"VOTE OUT REPUBLICANS EVERYWHERE AND WATCH YOUR LIFE IMPROVE DRAMATICALLY!"
George
90-percent
(6,934 posts)Don't forget the Boomer Generation (I'm a 1954 member, born on the most inconsequential day of the entire 20th century) is responsible for the current runaway train irreversible global climate change.
Nice people, these boomers.
DRILL BABY, DRILL!
-90% Jimmy
DownriverDem
(6,801 posts)on the Reagan train. I never was and continue to fight against the MAGA repubs.
calimary
(85,861 posts)We each have voted solidly and reliably for the Blue Team, every time there’s an election.
That is an absolute.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)wasn't what they were saying. I could never understand others being so sucked into a fantasy created by the GOP propaganda which never matched reality.
calimary
(85,861 posts)Maybe they DESPERATELY wanted it to be true.
Wished on a star or something. I’m reminded of an old saying, like many old sayings that are true: “if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.”
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,750 posts)Our generation fucked it up for their generation. At least I can tell them it was the other side, the Republicans, that did it, but that doesn't make it any better.
At least I know that they'll inherit our home one day and be able to divide up the proceeds. A lot of their friends don't have that to look forward to.
bluestateboomer
(519 posts)Very True.
Native
(7,050 posts)czarjak
(12,743 posts)Aaaaaaaaaand letting the winners decide whom the losers are.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,874 posts)That "middle class" that could support their families on a single income, buy homes and new cars, and retire with generous pensions were primarily white males. That includes the soldiers that were able to attend college on the GI Bill. If you were anything other than a white male, things weren't that great.
orangecrush
(24,162 posts)Along with those who controlled his puppet strings.
samplegirl
(12,896 posts)Thanks for the sad reminder.
mntleo2
(2,589 posts)Believe me as a social justice advocate as a youth did not let me stay silent! But I cannot tell you how many times I was shushed and told to stay silent "for the good" of everyone." This was because it made people uncomfortable to see the injustices happening right under their noses and oh Lord, do *not* speak the truth!.
Raised by WOBBLYS I watched my own union give up civil service so they could get more money. Now although they are the only ones out there for workers if at all, many are weak and feckless, (including the ones who went behind closed doors and gave away all our power), sad to say.
As an advocate for community and family support I just wanted to scream when those who lost it all came crying to the likes of me saying, "B-b-b-ut I really deserve the help! I worked so harrrrd, I went to my place of faith, I did all the right things..." As if the poor had not been doing those same things all along yet were ridiculed and told their poverty was "their own fault?" See, doncha know, "they did not work hard enough, their unpaid work was considered "doing nothing," and they were just too lazy."
Millions of families were thrown under the bus with welfare DeFormed being placed in forced low income labor that left them abjectly poor for the rest of their lives. They were all "welfare queens" like the lie Reagan told us about and Clinton went along with doncha know. I cannot mention names here, but one of them is a famous woman who carried all that out with gusto. ..."
My generation needs to face it. We gave it all away fueled by the "greed is good" meme without admitting that attitude just gave it to us in the shorts. I am proud to say I did not stay silent and I tried to warn about what my grandparents, the forerunners of unions, said would happen if we did not keep vigil. But I paid the price for speaking truth to power because well I refused to sleep with the enemy.
Yes I am frankly ashamed of my generation. Instead of making our world even better we created a junk yard and place of filth for them to live.
Just sayin'
Cat in Seattle