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Jilly_in_VA

(10,085 posts)
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:50 PM Sep 2023

The Republican debate is fake

By Zack Beauchamp

Donald Trump is solidly over 50 percent in the national polling averages, and no one else in the primary field has anything that looks like momentum. No opponent has been able to find a line of attack that could hurt him; many of them aren’t even trying. The great GOP establishment hope, that Trump’s legal problems might torpedo his campaign, was a mirage. If anything, the four indictments helped him in the primary.

At this point, the only things that could stop Trump are his death or incapacitation. Everyone in the political world — including the debate’s organizers and non-delusional rival candidates — is aware of this fact. Trump isn’t participating in the debates because he doesn’t need to: He would be lowering himself to share a stage with people who pretend to be rivals, but are really just the warm-up act for his coronation.

That doesn’t mean the debate is entirely pointless. The other candidates get something out of being on that stage, like improving their future political prospects or satisfying a need for attention. And if you squint, you might get an actually interesting window into the policy debates that will define a post-Trump Republican Party.

But, of course, we are not yet even close to “post-Trump.” In presenting it as an actual presidential debate, rather than a discussion between somewhat prominent Republicans, the debate’s organizers are lying to you. With Trump absent, and facing no serious challengers, this is all make-believe politics — a ritual the party goes through to cover up the dark reality of what the party has become.

https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/2023/9/27/23890683/second-republican-debate-gop-fake-rnc-trump

But you already knew that, right?

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The Republican debate is fake (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Sep 2023 OP
I see it as an audition to be Trump's no_hypocrisy Sep 2023 #1
Spot on Jilly, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #2
Besides Asa Hutchinson dweller Sep 2023 #3
Asa Hutchinson Jilly_in_VA Sep 2023 #4
He said back in Jan '23 dweller Sep 2023 #5

gab13by13

(21,674 posts)
2. Spot on Jilly,
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:57 PM
Sep 2023

I just heard Thom Hartmann say the same thing.

Thom thinks that Nikki Haley may move to 2nd place ahead of DeSantis.

dweller

(23,778 posts)
3. Besides Asa Hutchinson
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 01:02 PM
Sep 2023

The Pisswig didn’t qualify for the debate .
He wouldn’t sign the loyalty pledge

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dweller

(23,778 posts)
5. He said back in Jan '23
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 01:19 PM
Sep 2023

That the Pisswig wasn’t qualified to be president, before he had even announced he’d run too.
Pretty sure he didn’t sign loyalty pledge also. Plus he not overtly insane.



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