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Dulcinea

(10,083 posts)
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 07:43 AM Dec 2023

Democrats need to pull themselves together and remember: Biden is still better than Trump

Democratic strategists, liberal pundits and TV talkers of all political stripes are making a living off doubting President Joe Biden’s viability in the 2024 presidential election.

Some polls show former President Donald Trump winning! Biden’s poll numbers are bad! He’s old! The far left is mad at him!

As we sit here a good 11 months before the election, there has been widespread bed-wetting over the incumbent. Buckets of liberal tears have been shed. And it all seems, in my humble, liberal opinion, a bit ridiculous.

https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-pull-themselves-together-remember-090338307.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00

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Democrats need to pull themselves together and remember: Biden is still better than Trump (Original Post) Dulcinea Dec 2023 OP
It is hugely ridiculous and dangerous too LymphocyteLover Dec 2023 #1
This is the way that I see it, gab13by13 Dec 2023 #2
This is an important topjc and distinction that i appalachiablue Dec 2023 #4
Yahoo likes to stir shit. pwb Dec 2023 #3
At this point, I'm more concerned about indies than Dems pstokely Dec 2023 #5

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
2. This is the way that I see it,
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 08:21 AM
Dec 2023

and I got this way from watching real news from Thom Hartmann.

Voters who are involved in movements usually get out and vote because of the enthusiasm. Donald Trump has a couple of movements behind him. Trump has the Pro life movement. Trump has the White Supremacist movement which combines with the anti-woke movement or really the ant-intellectual movement.

Joe Biden is a politician, but he does have the pro-women's healthcare movement behind him. Even though Bidenomics is a tremendous success, people just don't get enthused to vote over a positive economy.

Here is what Democrats need to do to help Biden win, we need a pro-democracy movement spread across the United States. We need to do it now. We need to show the voters the differences between democracy and Dictatorship, and yes we need to call it a Dictatorship and not an authoritarian leader, people just don't understand the word authoritarian.

This is the key for Democrats; voters in movements are more enthused than voters voting for a politician. Republicans fear people like Taylor Swift who could lead a movement, that is why they immediately started attacking her.

Movement v Politician, Movement usually wins, not always, but usually.

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
4. This is an important topjc and distinction that i
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 09:49 AM
Dec 2023

agree with to a large degree. Issues, political figures and movements drive voter interest, activism and turnout in my view.

K/R

pwb

(12,660 posts)
3. Yahoo likes to stir shit.
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 09:41 AM
Dec 2023

Like this. We will be voting in never before seen numbers in 2024. The young's earth is on fire and women losing freedoms will never be forgotten. Will pukes change on climate? No. Will they leave women alone? NO. If anybody stays home this election it will be the pukes. IMO."

pstokely

(10,891 posts)
5. At this point, I'm more concerned about indies than Dems
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 03:24 AM
Dec 2023

not voting for the orange menance, but people staying home because they think all their options are shitty, particularly men who don't give a shit either way about reproductive rights or the courts

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