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douglas9

(5,399 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 08:10 AM Yesterday

We asked activists from authoritarian regimes what they wish they'd known sooner. Here's what they said

Donald Trump makes no secret of his admiration for strongmen like Hungary’s Viktor Orbán or El Salvador’s Nayib Bukele. Last month, he praised Orbán’s hardline stance on immigration and urged European leaders to show more “respect” for the president; earlier this year his administration struck a deal with Bukele to send more than 200 detained migrants to a notorious, maximum-security prison in El Salvador.

Many international organizations, experts and historians have sounded the alarm about the United States heading in a similar direction as these authoritarian regimes.

One year after Trump’s re-election, the Guardian asked activists and opposition leaders from Hungary, El Salvador and Turkey what their experiences have taught them about authoritarianism – and what they wish they’d understood sooner.

Americans “should look to other countries, especially in the global south for solutions and for what not to do,” said Ece Temelkuran, a Turkish writer and author of How to Lose a Country. “Drop the arrogance, drop the exceptionalism.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/09/experts-authoritarian-regimes-trump

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We asked activists from authoritarian regimes what they wish they'd known sooner. Here's what they said (Original Post) douglas9 Yesterday OP
Very helpful article NJCher 23 hrs ago #1
More from your link UpInArms 23 hrs ago #2
Oh yeah! NJCher 23 hrs ago #3
This article literally screams at us! mountain grammy 21 hrs ago #4
Excellent article. We are seeing the Salvadorian experience in real time. "Authoritarian systems give the appearance of Martin68 21 hrs ago #5
"When they come to power for the second time,they feel more ruthless,and they behave as if there are no boundaries" Mr. Sparkle 21 hrs ago #6

NJCher

(42,198 posts)
1. Very helpful article
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 08:33 AM
23 hrs ago

I intend to bring up the point about focusing on the peoples’ needs at my Indivisible zoom meeting tonight.

Re dropping the American exceptionalism, I doubt that too many people, particularly here, believe in that.



UpInArms

(53,855 posts)
2. More from your link
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 08:45 AM
23 hrs ago
“Authoritarian systems give the appearance of performing, but their solutions are not thorough, they are not sustainable, and they are not fair,” she went on. “They will decay because the way they function is to exclude, abuse, and allow massive corruption.”

But she says she’s also learned to never underestimate the autocrat.

Whether it’s undermining the judiciary or intimidating local governments, “In many cases, you think, ‘No, they won’t do it,’” she says. “But we have seen how [centralization of power] has advanced very quickly. So it’s important that democracy is defended at every turn,” she said.

NJCher

(42,198 posts)
3. Oh yeah!
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 08:53 AM
23 hrs ago

They will do it. Whatever is the most stupid, incompetent way, they will do it.

Martin68

(26,811 posts)
5. Excellent article. We are seeing the Salvadorian experience in real time. "Authoritarian systems give the appearance of
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 10:42 AM
21 hrs ago

performing, but their solutions are not thorough, they are not sustainable, and they are not fair,” she went on. “They will decay because the way they function is to exclude, abuse, and allow massive corruption.”

Mr. Sparkle

(3,579 posts)
6. "When they come to power for the second time,they feel more ruthless,and they behave as if there are no boundaries"
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 11:05 AM
21 hrs ago

That's exactly what we are seeing

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