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ancianita

(43,162 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:35 AM Jan 11

When American Violence Becomes Too Much for Families

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The one group in the United States most interested in leaving the country and permanently living somewhere else is American women ages 15 to 44. According to Gallup, 40 percent of women polled in my age bracket expressed this desire, double the rate of all U.S. adults...

I asked readers who were considering moving what was driving them out.
While the responses were varied (the rollback of rights for women, immigrants and L.G.B.T.Q.+ people was mentioned by several), the most common reason cited was gun violence in the United States. Whether at the hands of fellow citizens or militarized law enforcement officers, this particular form of violence and its unremitting nature is just not a significant problem in our peer nations...

I also spoke to a couple — the husband is a veteran who works for the federal government and the wife is a professor — who live outside a major West Coast city. (They asked that I not use their names for fear of retaliation.)
The family, which includes a school-age child, spent several months of a sabbatical living in Europe.
The wife described the “underlying hum of anxiety” that just went away when they were living outside the United States.
The lack of threat from gun violence was part of that. But it was bigger than just the guns. The husband told me that children were given so much more freedom in Europe...His wife said it wasn’t just the absence of fear she felt when living abroad; it was also the presence of care. “I realized that I felt held there by the culture, by the society, by people.”....

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When American Violence Becomes Too Much for Families (Original Post) ancianita Jan 11 OP
The fucking guns. 3Hotdogs Jan 11 #1
And the constant hatred and denigration by bigots. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #5
Republicans, FoxNews, pedoPOTUS are all to blame for our sick culture LymphocyteLover Jan 11 #2
Not to mention DownriverDem Jan 11 #8
Yes-- Hate radio is a huge factor that got us here LymphocyteLover Jan 11 #13
I believe we will eventually have a civil war, though I hate even thinking about it. Lonestarblue Jan 11 #3
We are already in a civil war. People are being killed, harassed, threatened, kidnapped. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #6
If we don't win in 2026, ICE will come after us all. They'll be a lotalty oath Joinfortmill Jan 11 #10
Yep WmChris Jan 11 #4
We could be like that DownriverDem Jan 11 #7
Wow. Doesn't say much for us. Joinfortmill Jan 11 #9
We live in a rural area and don't have any fear MichMan Jan 11 #11
All of the above! JustKay Jan 11 #12

DownriverDem

(6,988 posts)
8. Not to mention
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:56 AM
Jan 11

that the hate all started decades ago with rush limbaugh and RW talk radio. Former speaker newt gngrich is to blame too. He's the one who promoted no compromise, don't interact with Dems and go home on the weekends. This view has festered to where we are now.

Lonestarblue

(13,344 posts)
3. I believe we will eventually have a civil war, though I hate even thinking about it.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:08 AM
Jan 11

Either that or we all accept that Trump is turning us into East Germany with his ICE version of the Stasi to control us all. ICE is acting with impunity now, and they will kill anyone who dares to challenge them.

If they start doing door-to-door searches, things will get crazy. Of course they’ll target black and Hispanic neighborhoods, but imagine heavily armed masked men tearing your door down and roughing up everyone inside, including US citizens. They’ve actually already done that in an apartment complex last year where they dragged children from their beds and threw them into the street. Why would anyone voluntarily open a door to masked thugs who may or may not be ICE since impersonators are committing crimes, especially attacks on women.

If Trump lives to see the end of his term, we will have a country of utter civil chaos with ICE and the US military patrolling all Democratic cities and a suspension of all civil rights unless Democrats can take back the House and Senate and impeach him. By that time even some Republicans may be fed up enough to convict him.

Irish_Dem

(80,423 posts)
6. We are already in a civil war. People are being killed, harassed, threatened, kidnapped.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:22 AM
Jan 11

People are being targeted and destroyed by the PutinGOP.
Trump is just the front man.

Joinfortmill

(20,518 posts)
10. If we don't win in 2026, ICE will come after us all. They'll be a lotalty oath
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:31 AM
Jan 11

I won't take it. I'm old. Like Germany, we'll wreak havoc on the world. He has to be stopped, one way or the other.

WmChris

(670 posts)
4. Yep
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:12 AM
Jan 11

Our youngest son an architect and his wife a teacher and jass & concert pianist moved from California to Halifax Nova Scotia to escape what this country is becoming under MAGAT rule.

DownriverDem

(6,988 posts)
7. We could be like that
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:52 AM
Jan 11

but half the country is full of hate for "others" which trump promotes and pushes. We are so far behind in so many ways.

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