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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:40 AM Jun 2013

I know this is a meta OP; but ...

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Lone_Star_Dem (a host of the Editorials & Other Articles forum).

I think much of the angst displayed in DU, these days, is an indictment of the devolution of an educational system that teaches WHAT to think rather than teaching HOW to think.

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I know this is a meta OP; but ... (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 OP
I have been here since 2001 and am shocked at the lack of critical thinking .. Bonhomme Richard Jun 2013 #1
I found DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #2
Wait a minute! femmocrat Jun 2013 #3
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #5
I agree with you about testing. femmocrat Jun 2013 #6
Frankly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #8
Blinded by the light GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #4
Don't be too down, all you need are a couple of good creative writing courses to learn Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #7
Why are you stalking me ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #9
True. mzteris Jun 2013 #10
I'm going to go ahead and lock this now. Lone_Star_Dem Jun 2013 #11

Bonhomme Richard

(9,562 posts)
1. I have been here since 2001 and am shocked at the lack of critical thinking ..
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:17 AM
Jun 2013

that as been displayed here in the past week.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. I found DU ...
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:35 AM
Jun 2013

a little later; but I agree ... the level of anti-thought is strong these days. However, I would pin the shift to about January 2012.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. Wait a minute!
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:37 AM
Jun 2013

That is a pretty broad-brushed indictment of our educational system. Have you ever been to the Education Group here at DU?

If not, please enlighten yourself: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1124

There are good schools, great schools, and struggling schools. There is no "system"--- but there sure is a part of the country that is too ready to jump on educators for all of society's shortcomings. Democrats need to support schools, not blame them.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. Yes ...
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jun 2013

it is.

Yes, there are good and great schools out there ... and even better teachers. I don't blame the teachers; however, with the shift to "teaching to the test" (as directed by the administration ... to improve school "performance ratings" ... in order to keep their jobs; rather than, suffer poor performance ratings and hold public education over to the for-profit education industry), the teaching of critical thinking skills is getting short cutted.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
6. I agree with you about testing.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 11:01 AM
Jun 2013

However, I don't believe that many DUers would have been affected by the emphasis on standardized testing, which has really cranked up since NCLB under bush (2001). Do we have that many recent HS grads at DU? (The test is given in grades 3, 8, and 11.)

JMO, but I think people don't read much anymore! How many times have you read through a lengthy link and then returned to the OP to see additional comments that are obviously ill-informed? Way too many times I have seen people respond to posts with a short "sound-bite" instead of a well-thought-out position.

Whether this has anything to do with education, I really don't know. We still teach reading comprehension! In fact, it's on
"the test"! Why not just blame the media instead. They are a better target than the schools.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. Frankly ...
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 01:12 PM
Jun 2013

it seems like it.

GeorgeGist

(25,570 posts)
4. Blinded by the light
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jun 2013

from that "shining city upon a hill".

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. Don't be too down, all you need are a couple of good creative writing courses to learn
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jun 2013

how to spruce your material up a bit.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. Why are you stalking me ...
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 01:15 PM
Jun 2013

I have asked you to place me on ignore; yet you follow me around like some love-sick puppy.

Stop it. Find another hobby.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
10. True.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jun 2013

They don't teach how to think anymore. Just memorize what I tell you and color in those little bubbles nicely. Nope. No asking questions. No outside research. No opinions allowed.

(And people wonder why increasing numbers of liberals are homeschooling. . . )

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
11. I'm going to go ahead and lock this now.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jun 2013

This does not meet the SOP for Good Reads.

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