When does lying about Obamacare become immoral and evil?

[TomCADem]

The MSM has moved to the right from simply pushing a false equivalency to abandoning any pretense of impartiality and ignoring the thousands of people have gained access to healthcare due to the ACA. Right wing politicians are permitted to recite their talking points without challenge, while millions of poor who gain access to healthcare due to the expansion of Medicaid are virtually disappeared.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/08/1260646/-When-does-lying-about-Obamacare-become-immoral-and-evil

When does lying and misinforming make the leap from hard nose political blood sport to immoral and evil? When politicians and their supporters lie and misinforms at the detriment of one’s health or life.

It is immoral and evil to encourage young people to forego insurance when you have no intentions of being there if they get sick or get into an accident. It is immoral and evil to build websites that trick citizens into accessing them while providing them with misleading information that dissuades them from getting the health care they need. It is evil and immoral to create false stories mimicking real people’s circumstances in an attempt to curtail the number of enrollees to Obamacare.

The president in his most recent policy speech implies that his last three years will be focused on inequality and every citizen’s access to success. The pope has been more vocal in calling out the ills of trickle-down economics and unfettered capitalism. Obamacare is a piece of one of the legs on the stool that will lift all citizens. You cannot have access to success if you are sick and without insurance or bankrupted by getting sick. You cannot have access to success if those that purport to care are absent or promoting that which will cause your demise

The state of Texas has the distinction of executing more citizens than any other state. Rick Perry has condemned many thousands of his fellow Texans to death by neglect. For these he did not need a trial. Not providing ones citizens with available healthcare is a death sentence. Many other governors in red states have done the same. What will the evangelical churches do for you if Obamacare fails? What will the Southern Baptist churches do for you if Obamacare fails? What will conservatives and Republicans do for you if Obamacare fails? It is time for all to take stock. When does lying and misinforming become immoral and evil? It is now.

[sheshe2]

1. Well this sure states it in black and white!

The state of Texas has the distinction of executing more citizens than any other state. Rick Perry has condemned many thousands of his fellow Texans to death by neglect. For these he did not need a trial. Not providing ones citizens with available healthcare is a death sentence. Many other governors in red states have done the same.

Damn them all to hell!

Thank you for posting, Tom.

[freshwest]

2. Perry is worse than even Bush was to Texas. A hundred times worse. n/t

[sheshe2]

3. Right you are.

For some strange reason the GOP has become emboldened. That or just drank way to much kool aid. They are batshit crazy, freshwest.

[TexasProgresive]

4. When their lips are moving.

M. Scott Peck a Christian Psychiatrist wrote "The People of the Lie" along with other books. Now I know that many on this board will be prejudiced against anything written by a Christian but it is a good exploration of pathological liars. It's been several years since I read it-but here's a snip from Wikipedia. You may recognize some of these traits in some (in)famous people with (r) next to their names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_Lie#People_of_the_Lie
According to Peck an evil person:[6][7]

Is consistently self-deceiving, with the intent of avoiding guilt and maintaining a self-image of perfection

Deceives others as a consequence of their own self-deception

Projects his or her evils and sins onto very specific targets (scapegoats) while being apparently normal with everyone else ("their insensitivity toward him was selective" (Peck, 1983/1988, p 105[7]))

Commonly hates with the pretense of love, for the purposes of self-deception as much as deception of others

Abuses political (emotional) power ("the imposition of one's will upon others by overt or covert coercion" (Peck, 1978/1992, p298[6]))

Maintains a high level of respectability, and lies incessantly in order to do so

Is consistent in his or her sins. Evil persons are characterized not so much by the magnitude of their sins, but by their consistency (of destructiveness)

Is unable to think from the viewpoint of their victim (scapegoat)

Has a covert intolerance to criticism and other forms of narcissistic injury

Most evil people realize the evil deep within themselves but are unable to tolerate the pain of introspection, or admit to themselves that they are evil. Thus, they constantly run away from their evil by putting themselves in a position of moral superiority and putting the focus of evil on others. Evil is an extreme form of what Scott Peck, in The Road Less Traveled, calls a character disorder.[6][7]