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Aurora Victim's Mom Calls McCain Town Hall 'Appalling'
Tom Teves: "I Have VOTED Republican My Whole Life ... I'll NEVER Vote Republican Again - EVER!"
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Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)McCain and "a heart" should not be used in same sentence.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Their whole ideology is sociopathic. Dare I say satanic.
rurallib
(62,406 posts)quit voting for those cowboys.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)"Straight talk".. from John Mc Cain...to a grieving mom...
rurallib
(62,406 posts)pubs have said in the last 10 years, most is forgotten.
With the help of the corporate M$M (and I include NPR) there mistakes are quietly slipped away while ours are played forever.
I suspect this will be down the old memory hole by this weekend.
crim son
(27,464 posts)For whatever reason they lack the empathy required to truly give a crap about people who do not directly affect their lives. But my heart goes out to people who have to learn the hard way as their pain must be truly unthinkable.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)...is inevitable.
And for some of the same reasons.
Roy Rolling
(6,911 posts)Here's some straight talk....giving McCain a free pass because he was a POW in Vietnam has run its course. He is brain-damaged from that experience and has lost his moral compass from supporting neanderthals in his own political party----who trashed him in the 2000 election.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)As shocking as that is, it is mild compared to a lot of what comes out of Republican mouths these days.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)They're more afraid of a small handful of uber-wealthy donors than their own constituents. How pitiful. I'm glad this guy finally saw the light about them.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I don't know what's sadder.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)who haven't had their eyes forcibly opened, like the Teves did.
Talk about, "none so blind as those who will not see."
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)kairos12
(12,852 posts)that rethug empathy extends as far as their own front step. No further. Until, something bites them personally. Otherwise, its the pull yourself up with bootstraps and you all are a bunch of takers.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)... and maybe Medicare/medicaide should pay for more than a handful of therapy visits. Unless of course we would rather pay for a lifetime of permanent disability. Duh
freshwest
(53,661 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)when he blows off this grieving mother in public. It reminds me of those incidents during the Republican debates when audiences were cheering electrocution at border feces and letting te uninsured die. Here's the clip and the incident is at the 1:00 mark:
booley
(3,855 posts)and the same narcissism to be found in that applause can be found in the comments section.
It's all about "them" and how "They" will be inconvenienced..I mean "demonized"
I don't think they mean to be cruel. They just don't have the empathy to know how vile and self absorbed they sound.
Unfortunately this also makes this debate all the harder since they confuse outrage at surpassing the norms of human decency with persecution.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)what have we become when greed and power corrupt decency and compassion.
Hugs for all on DU who are showing compassion, love, decency and honor every day.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Yeah, that is the challenge....
Hold to our values--which, to put it as plain and simple as possible, could be: To Reduce Suffering.
It's good to be able to vent and rant here--thank gawd!--, but in the real world, we need to make decisions all the time about how best to deal with any given individual or situation.
Sometimes it's best to let them be or end the r-ship (like friends or family, for instance). And sometimes we need to get them fired, or jailed.
And we need to keep our compassion intact; get it refueled too....
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)mouth. We will just keep getting more voters.
He should retire!
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)he is past his prime. I am still waiting for all of these grouchy old men to ride their horses off into the sunset, and for this government to swing back from the far right. Please, in my lifetime.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I think we should encourage him to open his mouth any time the urge to glurge strikes. He's pure gold for the Democrats.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)because I can remember and miss actual intelligent debates between Republican and Democratic Parties. My parents were Republicans and they weren't batshit crazy. This country is in sore need of a real debate about real issues between two real parties. *sigh*
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Only his well connected daddy kept him out of jail and pulled strings to get him into the Naval Academy where he graduated very close to the bottom of his class. He wrecked five planes before he was shot down and captured. He parlayed this dismal record into "war hero" status with the conservatard RepubliCON party which is dominant in dim bulb Arizona. My Dad graduated from the Naval Academy during WWII and served in some very dangerous situations in the South Pacific, commanding an LST. He never wanted to discuss it and would not. After he died I procured his service record to find out. Google John McCain to find out the facts, Wikipedia is probably altered by McCain's people.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)
It has been as if his record is sacred. He was a loose cannon, was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and was able to turn it into the goose that laid the golden egg. Being a POW was no walk in the park, but there is a difference between hero and POW.
And his loose cannon ways showed up in his response to this poor mother who lost a son in Aurora. And then to have the audience cheer this POS (not POW) response is abominable.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Except for not breaking off on the bombing run over North Vietnam and getting his ass shot out of the sky, all his other crashes were stalls on landing.
The asshole never learned how to land an aircraft.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)It beats me how a well know moron can get into a plane, drop bombs on a bunch of villagers, get shot down, spill his guts and then call himself a hero for life.
MADem
(135,425 posts)What an offensive, clueless, tone-deaf idiot.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)His meaning was quite clear.
Caeser67
(156 posts)He's always playing "Guess What I Forgot."
This is no different than the disrespect, that he shown Families of those who perished on the U.S.S. Liberty, for years. As long as the so-called media fawns over this bitter, evil, always wrong Man, he will continue to do this. Remember, this is a Man who turned his back on "his Friend" Chuck Hagel because Mr. Hagel said some disparaging things about George Bush, the same George Bush who's Chief Hack (Karl Rove) created a lie about his adopter Daughter, during the SC Primaries, and the same George Bush that he carried water for. He's not mad at them? John McCain WAS an honorable Man, ONLY because he had the GREAT misfortune of being shot down over Vietnam, and as a retired Army Man of 23 years (ret. 2007) with 2 Purple hearts myself, I can respect THAT, but I don't have to respect HIM. And I DON'T. It's ok Teves Family, we grieve with you, we respect you, and John McCain will one day know of what you feel, but the sympathy will not be given to him, at least not by me.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)recommended.
Cha
(297,137 posts)is a fucking figment of his imagination.
Thanks for calling him out so spectacularly, EarlG!
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)Nuff said.
Logic Dictates
(2 posts)We should keep people like John McCain around for the 2014 elections. Well he'll be here anyway unless by the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, he should croak.
This way American voters get to see first hand what a disgusting mess of human DNA this creature has turned out to be. Lets put him right up there, on the GOP pedestal with Rush Limbaugh as a shining example of what a human stain he has become.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)calimary
(81,210 posts)I think we should all hang this around mccain's neck. Forever. You said it, Senator. You built this. And thank you for delivering two more new Democrats to us! And one of them is from the older white male category.
Let's never forget this. And anyone who stands with him - like their little GOP girlie kelly ayotte and certainly lindsey graham! Their next Democratic opponents should use this over and over and over. Immediately following a clip or montage of them standing at the mic or side-by-side somewhere in public with john mccain. He could well become a Typhoid john.
This is reprehensible. VIVID living proof that the GOP loves to sneer. To kick 'em when they're down. To grandstand REGARDLESS of the discourteous or heartless optics it creates. Because the rigid ideology, and indeed the grandstanding itself, is more important to these assholes. mccain should have to pay a price for this. It's just simply disgusting and reprehensible and an OUTRAGE that he would speak so cavalierly and cold-heartedly to such a citizen. Well, hell, to ANY citizen whether they were personally impacted by gun violence or not. But to a grieving mother - I mean, HOW DARE YOU, john mccain? SHAME on you!!!
The following well-known quote applies quite aptly to john mccain now, too: "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_N._Welch
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Few will forgive your comments when it comes to light that you have Alzheimer's and frankly, I don't give a damn. You are an asshat, whether your brain is scrambled or not.
Loryn
(943 posts)and, may I just say, what an asshole.
Excuse my language.
Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)because if I were in her shoes and her situation I'd likely charge the asshole the second he said it. That is probably the most offensive things to say to a person who's been affected by a violent act save for "They deserved it."
"Need some straight talk," give me a fracking break...
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, EarlG.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Oh dear, Johnny boy.....seems like you've just lost two more supporters.....Seriously, how dare he insult a grieving mother like this. Fuck 'im.
(P.S. Thanks EarlG.)
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)RT_Fanatic
(224 posts)to further illuminate what Republicans are: heartless bastards (apologies to that GREAT band by the same name) who have no empathy, no concern for anyone but themselves.
On top of that McCain is plain rude, his conduct unbefitting a U.S. senator. What a PIG.
Initech
(100,063 posts)spicegal
(758 posts)A mother's son is murdered, and his response is she needs some straight talk, AND the crowd cheered. He could have at least had the decency to preface his incredibly cold comment with a sincere condolence regarding her horrible loss. But then, he McCain represents just how mean spirited the GOP really is and how far they've devolved into a bunch of radical spiteful extremists with no solutions to the many problems facing this country.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)This man is not fit to serve as dog catcher. And never was.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Cenk over on the Young Turks spelled it out. The mother got a lot of support and applause for what she said, too. And then McCain did first sympathize with her situation. Both of those things weren't included in the local news story that so many have seen.
All of those things, however, don't mitigate John McCain's fucking assholery in my mind. Clearly the Teves were there and saw it all.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)deke4
(1 post)John McCain and others who oppose gun ban legislation rightfully expressed their sorrow at the 4 Americans killed at Ben Ghazi which, I believe, no one could do anything about. Remember it was they who shot down the foreign service budget But of the victims of Aurora and Newtown, something that McCain and his ilk could do something about, the cruel answer to a grieving victim's mother was "The assault rifle ban will not pass".
bluesbassman
(19,370 posts)but those are excellent points. Would that they show the same level of outrage for the victims at home. Unfortunately that would not pander well to their political base.
Welcome to DU deke4.