Elvis Costello Can finally Tramp The Dirt Down now that Thatcher is Dead

[graham4anything]

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[Buzz Clik]

1. DU is reacting to Thatcher's death in predictable fashion.

But, if we didn't celebrate the death of our political "enemies", it wouldn't be DU.

[graham4anything]

2. Please note- I did not make any editorial comment whatsoever

so don't put words in my mouth

I simply posted my 2nd favorite Elvis Costello song
with NO comment whatsoever about my point of view.

[amuse bouche]

5. Oh please

If you want to see what the Brits thought of her, check out HuffPo's U.K front page

She was despised. Of course HuffPo's censors are worse than here, but the famous Brit humor still shines through

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/

[Buzz Clik]

8. So? We justify our actions with "They did it first!"?

I'd like to say we're bigger than that, but we are not.

Every time someone of note on the right dies, we do a long and loud happy dance. People like me complain, but the celebration continues until some other distraction emerges.

Carry on. It's hardly unexpected.

[thesquanderer]

9. I will smile when Bush and Cheney pass.

And there's nothing wrong with talking about how horrible people were.

Check out the Glenn Greewald piece, "Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette

I think he's right.

That one should not speak ill of the dead is arguably appropriate when a private person dies, but it is wildly inappropriate for the death of a controversial public figure, particularly one who wielded significant influence and political power.
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those who admire the deceased public figure (and their politics) aren't silent at all. They are aggressively exploiting the emotions generated by the person's death to create hagiography.
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Demanding that no criticisms be voiced to counter that hagiography is to enable false history and a propagandistic whitewashing of bad acts, distortions that become quickly ossified and then endure by virtue of no opposition and the powerful emotions created by death. When a political leader dies, it is irresponsible in the extreme to demand that only praise be permitted but not criticisms.
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There's something distinctively creepy - in a Roman sort of way - about this mandated ritual that our political leaders must be heralded and consecrated as saints upon death. This is accomplished by this baseless moral precept that it is gauche or worse to balance the gushing praise for them upon death with valid criticisms. There is absolutely nothing wrong with loathing Margaret Thatcher or any other person with political influence and power based upon perceived bad acts, and that doesn't change simply because they die. If anything, it becomes more compelling to commemorate those bad acts upon death as the only antidote against a society erecting a false and jingoistically self-serving history.

(see Ronald Reagan.)

[JDPriestly]

10. I don't like the song and dance. Her family deserves to have

peace at this time. They are not responsible for what she did to Britain.

But, "someone of note"?

Are you talking about Margaret Thatcher? Margaret Thatcher?

I don't think she was a person of note. Quite to the contrary.

Just because she connived her way to the position of prime minister does not mean that she was in any way a person of note.

Ghandi was a person of note.

Abraham Lincoln was a person of note.

Even John F. Kennedy was a person of note.

Ghandi, Lincoln and Kennedy held up for us the highest standards of justice and hope. Margaret Thatcher did not.

Margaret Thatcher will go down in the annals of history as a minor character, a fly on the pages of time, unremarkable, rather petty, certainly over-confident, but not noteworthy at all.

Her family deserves its time to mourn her death.

Great Britain and the world mourned her living. That's over. May she rest in peace and anonymity.

[amuse bouche]

12. Well she was their leader, not ours

I have respect for what the people think.

I see the American right exalting her today because she got along with Reagan

They should respect the British people and their feelings on the subject

The funny this is how ignorant the American righties are

Thatcher was pro socialized medicine, climate change believer, raised taxes and was for gun control. Clearly Republicans are clueless

[Buzz Clik]

13. You pretty much missed my point.

But it's okay.

[amuse bouche]

14. No you missed my point

Why should we exalt her, when they loathe her? That disrespects all those clearly hurt by her policies and only add to why they hate us meme.

[Buzz Clik]

15. I asked for her to be exalted?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

11. She backed Pinochet and fought efforts to bring him to justice

I'm not one for grave-dancing, but I'll save my tears for folks like Victor Jara.

[Ian David]

3. I get an error when I click the link, but it works if I "view on YouTube." n/t

[graham4anything]

4. click on the big red > on the picture itself that starts the embedded video

[amuse bouche]

6. The typical commnet on Thatcher from Brits

"The queue for pissing on that grave will be long..take sandwiches and drinks"

[Indepatriot]

7. Deliciously Vicious Performance....

Mr. McManus at his best......and St.Ronnie too.