Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:41 AM

jakeXT (10,575 posts)

Bush's conspiracy gaffe on ABC

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35 replies	Author	Time	Post
Bush's conspiracy gaffe on ABC (Original post)	jakeXT	Apr 2013	OP
Jerk. Crook. Liar. Worst. pResident. Ever.	AndyA	Apr 2013	#1
Conspiracy just means a secret, illegal plot	CJCRANE	Apr 2013	#2
Yep. I think he wears an earpiece so his handlers can tell him what to say.	reformist2	Apr 2013	#9
+1	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#13
Yeah	BaronChocula	Apr 2013	#18
+1. Except for the Frank Luntz angle, this is an utter non-issue	RufusTFirefly	Apr 2013	#23
Ok, I understand...	TDale313	Apr 2013	#3
It's an agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.	AAO	Apr 2013	#24
Who me?	TDale313	Apr 2013	#25
LOL!	AAO	Apr 2013	#32
Using the word "conspiracy" is only proof that he's an idiot.	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#4
You can practically see his remaining brain cells fighting what to say	jakeXT	Apr 2013	#7
Yeah,...in slow motion.	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#16
it was a conspiracy among the 19 hijackers	Enrique	Apr 2013	#5
why don't you go to....	tomp	Apr 2013	#28
It was a conspiracy by definition	They_Live	Apr 2013	#6
The man is an idiot. He can not even complete a single sentence without stumbling.	Botany	Apr 2013	#8
The supreme court stopped the vote count and gave it to him. n/t	AnotherDreamWeaver	Apr 2013	#10
still, 50 mill people voted for him....	tomp	Apr 2013	#27
Maybe he was going to say 'concerted attack'?	AtheistCrusader	Apr 2013	#11
"It's really hard to protect the homeland"	Politicalboi	Apr 2013	#12
He will eventually spill all the beans he's got	Euphoria	Apr 2013	#14
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Apr 2013	#15
Why does he insist on saying "Homeland" and not "America"?	JDPriestly	Apr 2013	#17
You nailed the period it surfaced.	summerschild	Apr 2013	#26
FYI We don't live in the "Homeland"	zebonaut	Apr 2013	#19
When was the Frat Boy ever concerned about having the facts?	Jack Rabbit	Apr 2013	#20
Heh heh -- Huh?	Blue Owl	Apr 2013	#21
9/11 and the wars were just so funny	Botany	Apr 2013	#22
That idiotic smirk of his is just so wildly inappropriate.	trusty elf	Apr 2013	#29
At first he thought it was another con..... I hear it...	midnight	Apr 2013	#30
I don't think he said anything strange	Renew Deal	Apr 2013	#31
watch your step	Bucky	Apr 2013	#33
what exactly did he say?	burnodo	Apr 2013	#34
I defy anyone to find video of anyone in public life in America who is a	PCIntern	May 2013	#35

Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:44 AM

AndyA (16,993 posts)

1. Jerk. Crook. Liar. Worst. pResident. Ever.

The man should be in jail. He should have lots of friends in there with him, too. Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, for starters...

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:46 AM

CJCRANE (18,184 posts)

2. Conspiracy just means a secret, illegal plot

so, strictly speaking, Bush was correct even according to the official story.

But Frank Luntz or whoever obviously told him to say "organized plot" instead of "conspiracy".

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:03 PM

reformist2 (9,841 posts)

9. Yep. I think he wears an earpiece so his handlers can tell him what to say.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:24 PM

Buzz Clik (38,437 posts)

13. +1

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:55 PM

BaronChocula (513 posts)

18. Yeah

I think this is nitpicking a bit. Bush bears so much more low-hanging fruit.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 06:19 PM

RufusTFirefly (8,812 posts)

23. +1. Except for the Frank Luntz angle, this is an utter non-issue

Any attempts to play "gotcha" with Dubya's almost use of "conspiracy" is a total waste of time and energy and shows complete ignorance of the word's meaning.

No one who understands the meaning of the word would dispute that 9/11 was a conspiracy. Where the disagreement lies is in who the "evildoers" behind that particular conspiracy were.

Bush's "gaffe" was tantamount to his saying "Bible" instead of "Scripture" (or, heaven forbid, "country" instead of "Homeland."

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:47 AM

TDale313 (7,743 posts)

3. Ok, I understand...

Not wanting to necessarily use the word conspiracy because of the connotations, but to play devil's advocate...

If multiple people plan a criminal act, isn't that kinda by definition a conspiracy to commit said act?

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:36 PM

AAO (3,300 posts)

24. It's an agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Nothing more. You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

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Response to AAO (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:50 PM

TDale313 (7,743 posts)

25. Who me?

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:19 PM

AAO (3,300 posts)

32. LOL!

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:49 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

4. Using the word "conspiracy" is only proof that he's an idiot.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:01 PM

jakeXT (10,575 posts)

7. You can practically see his remaining brain cells fighting what to say

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:49 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

16. Yeah,...in slow motion.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:50 AM

Enrique (27,461 posts)

5. it was a conspiracy among the 19 hijackers

making something out of this reminds me of rightwing attacks on Obama that simply don't make any sense.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:14 AM

tomp (9,512 posts)

28. why don't you go to....

...www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html (for example) and answer the questions posed by the 9/11 families. when you have done that we can see if your anti-conspiracy attitude is worth a damn. let's see how much sense you make.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:56 AM

They_Live (3,133 posts)

6. It was a conspiracy by definition

no matter what theory you believe because it was not carried out by one person.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:03 PM

Botany (66,715 posts)

8. The man is an idiot. He can not even complete a single sentence without stumbling.

How the hell did he ever get to be POTUS?

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:13 PM

AnotherDreamWeaver (2,706 posts)

10. The supreme court stopped the vote count and gave it to him. n/t

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:07 AM

tomp (9,512 posts)

27. still, 50 mill people voted for him....

....give or take a little vote tampering.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:14 PM

AtheistCrusader (33,982 posts)

11. Maybe he was going to say 'concerted attack'?

This seems to be in reference to the follow-up explosion in West, Texas, before people knew if it was an industrial accident, or malicious act, like the Boston Marathon bombing.

There's more than one word in the dictionary that starts with 'Co'.

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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:18 PM

Politicalboi (15,189 posts)

12. "It's really hard to protect the homeland"

Yeah, just ask the Pentagon with 40 minutes notice. Billions on DEFENSE, but they failed miserably, and no one wants any explanation.

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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:35 PM

Euphoria (448 posts)

14. He will eventually spill all the beans he's got

not many but enough!!

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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:54 PM

JDPriestly (57,936 posts)

17. Why does he insist on saying "Homeland" and not "America"?

Sorry, but I know German, and that word homeland smacks of Heimat which is OK in German but which in English has uncomfortable, NAZI associations.

Why do they use that term? It was never used when I was growing up.

It seems to have been brought in during the Rove/Cheney/Bush period. I don't like it at all.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:23 AM

summerschild (725 posts)

26. You nailed the period it surfaced.

The neocon PNAC crowd brought it in. It sure does smack of their fascist roots.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:30 PM

zebonaut (3,688 posts)

19. FYI We don't live in the "Homeland"

That is some sort of racist nazi Texas term; but I don't use it. No one should. Maybe in his mind; bush lives in the "Homeland"; but the rest of us are United States Citizens. Of course in bush's Universe; he is a great hero; and a great President. Some sort of Parallel world.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:33 PM

Jack Rabbit (45,984 posts)