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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:17 AM May 2013

Costco Lady Handing Out Pizza Samples Wields Knife... Shot & Killed by Deputies




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Lady handing out pizza samples, upset about the pizza, begins acting crazy with large knife in Costco -- deputy shoots to kill, also hits fellow deputy. (witnesses report 5-6 shots)

Wondering how this will turn out -- no doubt store security footage will tell the tale ultimately

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Costco Lady Handing Out Pizza Samples Wields Knife... Shot & Killed by Deputies (Original Post) tomm2thumbs May 2013 OP
Well hey; if you're disorderly; they have to shoot to kill...... zebonaut May 2013 #1
It used to be Turbineguy May 2013 #7
May we please at least have an investigation before all the second guessing. Sheesh. RBInMaine May 2013 #8
What???!!? And run the risk of facts being presented to poison the case before DU tries both sides RC May 2013 #33
LOL n/t bitchkitty May 2013 #35
This needs to be investigated first before second guessing. RBInMaine May 2013 #10
"Crazy Person" yields knife and Police shoot to kill. Done. stlsaxman May 2013 #14
Till that crazy person is you mom or your sister having a bad day... dead. Ed Suspicious May 2013 #22
Who defines crazy? Ed Suspicious May 2013 #23
well heaven05 May 2013 #32
The only thing that can stop a bad gal with a pizza... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #2
Let's, um, at least have an investigation first before all the finger pointing. RBInMaine May 2013 #9
ummm heaven05 May 2013 #30
What's the "knife" turn out to be round. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #36
damn... AsahinaKimi May 2013 #3
........ daleanime May 2013 #4
CVS = Costco Vendor Services thelordofhell May 2013 #5
Sigh. Not this again. Zoeisright May 2013 #6
Everybody wants to feel like they are a bold brave dissident Shivering Jemmy May 2013 #13
if a cop cant subdue a woman with out killing her he has no business being a cop bowens43 May 2013 #15
Until cops stop using their guns MynameisBlarney May 2013 #28
Wow. You're ok with deadly force for disprderly conduct? Amazing. bowens43 May 2013 #16
Hear, hear! marble falls May 2013 #43
"That's the Chicago way." lame54 May 2013 #18
Really? MynameisBlarney May 2013 #24
+1000000 (n/t) a2liberal May 2013 #25
"Shooting a person in the arm or leg will not always top them in their tracks"? whathehell May 2013 #29
The British cops SCVDem May 2013 #40
Certainly sounds better than being shot dead. n/t whathehell May 2013 #41
It's Costco. SCVDem May 2013 #11
A lot of police apologists on this thread. vt_native May 2013 #12
NO KIDDING Rubysox May 2013 #17
+1 nt Live and Learn May 2013 #31
I don't understand how the taser didn't take her down. DebJ May 2013 #19
Can we train police to back up? Coyotl May 2013 #20
Multiple times in one incident, bitchkitty May 2013 #37
Nine wounds in one incident, two assailants, I won. I did not back up. Coyotl May 2013 #45
Oh! I was going to say something like, bitchkitty May 2013 #46
Is it completely out of line to wonder if these things could be defused by evacuating people from Ed Suspicious May 2013 #21
But that would require people to care about human life a2liberal May 2013 #26
That would take time away from arresting pot smokers and DWB* RC May 2013 #34
Sounds like the cops went into a shooting frenzy. This seems to happen quite often when A Simple Game May 2013 #42
Example circlethesquare May 2013 #27
Yay, Cops! Iggo May 2013 #38
Another one? blackspade May 2013 #39
I would like to understand this story better, but my googling abilities are not good. Help MrYikes May 2013 #44
 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
1. Well hey; if you're disorderly; they have to shoot to kill......
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:56 AM
May 2013

Could have been resolved without the American Tradition; of "Shoot it" first

Turbineguy

(37,329 posts)
7. It used to be
Thu May 30, 2013, 05:51 AM
May 2013

"Get out of line
They come to take you away,"

Now they just shoot you. Life is becoming cheap in America.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
33. What???!!? And run the risk of facts being presented to poison the case before DU tries both sides
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:16 AM
May 2013

in absentia? Are you nuts?

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
5. CVS = Costco Vendor Services
Thu May 30, 2013, 03:26 AM
May 2013

Lady was probably getting hassled by people waiting for pizza samples and she just cracked........the cops said they tried to taze her........but why did they shoot to kill???

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
6. Sigh. Not this again.
Thu May 30, 2013, 05:50 AM
May 2013

Police are trained to respond with force greater than the force they are being threatened with. A person has a knife; they respond with a gun. And when you get shot the odds are pretty fucking good you're going to be killed. Shooting a person in the arm or leg will not always stop them in their tracks.

I wish more people would learn about perfectly legal police responses before getting their panties in a bunch.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
15. if a cop cant subdue a woman with out killing her he has no business being a cop
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:03 AM
May 2013

I am always amazed at how so many see the causal use of deadly force as being ok. Truly pathetic.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
28. Until cops stop using their guns
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:27 AM
May 2013

as their primary means of dealing with all situations.
It's our duty as citizens to "bash" them.

They're shooting people over nothing. A LOT.

That's ok with you?

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
16. Wow. You're ok with deadly force for disprderly conduct? Amazing.
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:08 AM
May 2013

The cop who killed this woman , would in a civilized country, spend the rest of his miserable life in jail.

fuck their training. If they aren't willing to take risks they have no business being a cop.

I wish more people would learn that cops do not have the right to be judge, just and executioner.......


with attitudes like this it's no wonder we are welcoming the police the state.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
24. Really?
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:16 AM
May 2013

Just because something is "perfectly legal" doesn't make it right.

Your kind of attitude is what makes fascism possible.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
29. "Shooting a person in the arm or leg will not always top them in their tracks"?
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:29 AM
May 2013

In this case, I'm betting that shooting her "knife arm" would at least have rendered it powerless.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
11. It's Costco.
Thu May 30, 2013, 06:04 AM
May 2013

There are weapons everywhere from garden hose reels to boxes of frozen stuff which coud have been thrown on and at her.

No mace or pepper spray on the belt? Just gun and ammo.

Looks like Virginia isn't for lovers but killers. I'll pass. You're too violent and politicially twisted. Got Cooch?

Crazy starts from the top and y'all gone over the top. Virginia. Home of Governor ultrasound!

 

Rubysox

(6 posts)
17. NO KIDDING
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:15 AM
May 2013

I have never trusted and never will trust a cop,they are trained to "lie".

I have gotten off jury duty because I told the lawyers that is what I believe.
mace, tazers, are for the 1% bullets, batons are for the 99%, notice the class B citizen gets the enforcement that begins with B

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
19. I don't understand how the taser didn't take her down.
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:58 AM
May 2013

Haven't there been cases where people were killed by tasers?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
20. Can we train police to back up?
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:59 AM
May 2013

As someone who has been stabbed multiple times, I do have to recommend backing up if you can.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
45. Nine wounds in one incident, two assailants, I won. I did not back up.
Fri May 31, 2013, 06:36 PM
May 2013

My ninth stab was in the leg, all others in the left arm. Last one was because I exposed my leg with a killer groin kick that picked the guy up a few inches!

I also did not give up my journal about illegal Contra aid. They did steal my notebook with list of all contacts in Central America. I was nearly killed, saved by quick action of local citizens.

A few months later, we had the Iran-Contra incident come out.

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
46. Oh! I was going to say something like,
Fri May 31, 2013, 06:38 PM
May 2013

"I would move if I were you" but it doesn't seem appropriate in this instance.

Glad you're okay!

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
21. Is it completely out of line to wonder if these things could be defused by evacuating people from
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:02 AM
May 2013

the area, letting her throw a tantrum ending in her crying it out, and then being arrested? It seems like the need to intervene so directly has the effect of amping up the situation and getting people killed.

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
26. But that would require people to care about human life
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:22 AM
May 2013

instead of about enforcing the "fear authority" attitude and being quick to defend the aggressors at all costs.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
42. Sounds like the cops went into a shooting frenzy. This seems to happen quite often when
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:17 PM
May 2013

too many cops are allowed to be on a scene at one time. Just like adolescents, they have to show off for the others. As for the knife, she probably was using it to cut the pizzas. If I don't have a pizza wheel I usually use a chefs knife which is a big knife.

20 or 30 years ago two cops would have gone to the scene, the cause of the her problem would have been discussed, the woman would have been calmed down and maybe not even arrested.

Now nobody seems to have time to talk, why didn't the manager find time to ask her what the problem was, he/she found time to talk to the cops after.

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