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mother earth

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Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:32 PM Jun 2013

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We could certainly use Carl's programming and lecturing presence today Submariner Jun 2013 #1
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I have been seriously thinking about getting a copy of "Cosmos" longship Jun 2013 #3
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I have no quibble with wishing good luck. longship Jun 2013 #7
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Indeed, and always. longship Jun 2013 #11
mother earth Diclotican Jun 2013 #4
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mother earth Diclotican Jun 2013 #8
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mother earth Diclotican Jun 2013 #12
+1000 I agree with everything you said! LongTomH Jun 2013 #17
I watched those series for years on PBS, I felt very close to what he was saying. A different era. freshwest Jun 2013 #13
freshwest Diclotican Jun 2013 #14
I still get chills VWolf Jun 2013 #15
The Demon-Haunted World mikeysnot Jun 2013 #16
Another book by Carl Sagan that I can definitely recommend: LongTomH Jun 2013 #18
Sagan was warning us about James Infhofe; Michelle Bachmann zebonaut Jun 2013 #19

Submariner

(13,395 posts)
1. We could certainly use Carl's programming and lecturing presence today
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jun 2013

especially with the teabagger Science & Technology committee of congress lead by an ignorant creationist. If only the racist hate radio jocks and pundits would die off so quickly, it wouldn't feel so bad to lose the Carl Sagan's and Stephen Gould's of the world.

Good compilation video. Thanks.

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longship

(40,416 posts)
3. I have been seriously thinking about getting a copy of "Cosmos"
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jun 2013

It's been remastered. But it is expensive and it is difficult to justify on my small SocSec income.

No bandwidth here to view it online.

R&K

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longship

(40,416 posts)
7. I have no quibble with wishing good luck.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jun 2013

Although I don't believe in luck, per se.

But the expression is usually from the heart, so to speak. So I take that as its sentiment, which is likely the more important one.


Glad to have had this little colloquy here. I'll be looking for further posts from you.

Regards.

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longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Indeed, and always.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jun 2013

No other way to do things.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
4. mother earth
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:52 PM
Jun 2013

mother earth

One of my early heroes - And a writer i read all I could pick up on - and I also remember Cosmos - the series about the universe and all other things - I remember I had to beg, cry and promise a lot of things when Cosmos was aired, it was aired on school days - and I guess I was rather tired the next day, because it was aired late in the evning.. I think I even was sleeping true some of it at one point

Oh well - he was a hero of me - and i was deeply saddened when I read he was dead - it was like loosing a friend of sorts..

Diclotican

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Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
8. mother earth
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jun 2013

mother earth

Indeed - he was a great man - way ahead of his time in many ways - and he was good at making science locking interesting to a curious kid of age 8.. I have in some way always been interested in the universe - much thanks to his writing - the book Cosmos - and the series - and the books he have written.. And I got the impression that he was a great man, whose humanity was there too - even though that might come later as I mature a little more And he defently was one of them, who at least made a inpact on me - as I was growing up.. And often was reading books, many years ahead of my age group.. I doubt so many of my own agegroup was reading about the universe and how a star was made up - at age 9... I belive I even have a few of his books somewhere.. I might have to buy some more bookshells to have some of my books up instad in boxes.. A healty book, is a book who "know" it is in use...

Some here at DU even had the pleasure of bumping into the man - and had a very interesting evening as he was out dinning - and for some reason they got to talk to the man - and was talking about everything on their mind - to the wee hours of evening - even the restaurant owner was there all night - sitting after closing hours - just to have the pleasure of conservation between minds... I wish it was me

Diclotican

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Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
12. mother earth
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:26 PM
Jun 2013

mother earth

Carl Sagan would absolutely be one of the top ten I would break bread with if I was given the chance - over some food, and just talk.. I'm not sure If I would be the smartest person around the table - but I'm pretty sure I would be given a lot of knowledge I have not been able to understand before.. He looked like a person who could communicate difficult things - in words even a common like myself would understand.. Another person I would love to break bread with is Professor Hawking's - even though I believe him would look at me, as a very boring person, as have troubles grasp some of what he take as granted - but it would be cool, to just be in the same room as Prof Hawking's... I suspect I might would have been more at peace with lets say Einstein - or Isac Newton than Hawking's - who i at least feel is little frighting - mostly because of his intelligence... I'm afraid I would ask so many silly questioning that the professor would wonder if I was still a toddler..

I was one of this kids - who was geeky for the most part - never had to many friends - and some of my best friends was the books - who I was reading alot... Back home we had a lot of books - and from the time i mastered reading - I was reading true many of the books - even books who was maybe to difficult to me to really understand at the time... And I was also lucky to have libraries in my boyhood who could be used - and was used when I was growing up .. And I still use the library as best as I can - and have way to much books back home - I lost track when I had 500 or so books... I suspect I have many more now..

You tube is a great place to get to know, exactly this things like this man, who absolutely had a impact on me - maybe far more than I believe, as he was able to give me an insight to a difficult thing - the solar system - all the planets - and all the other stuff who are in our little neck in the universe - and then the great unknown who is on the outside of our Little place in the universe... We are indeed a small blue marble in the black space of universe... As Sagan him selfs pointed out in Cosmos. We are responsible for our home - to protect it - to save it from the worst habits of our own - and to make it possible to generations after generations, even after us - to live here - and prosper.. What we do today - have impact for what can be possible maybe 100 year from now...

As a grown man I have a couple of channels where new knowledge is that base - a great thing to have when you still is wondering what is up there at the stars... When you look at the sky a cold winter evening - you have to wonder - all this stars out there - who is blinking and lighting - is there life around the stars - life who might wonder as we do - is there life out there - and can we communicated with it..

And I suspect mr Sagan was one of the triggers - to wonder about what is out there.. Like our ancestors - who wondered what was on the other side of that hill - or what was on the other side of that pound - or that sea.. We humans are at a crossroad in many ways - would we dear do dip our foots out there in space - get our feets wet as our ancestors did when they was daring to sail over the sea - to a unknown future... I know the challenges to be space bearing is greatly more difficult than it was when our ancestors was sailing over the seas to discover new frontiers - but it is doable - if we use the resources needed... If we stop waging wars and spend the money more smart - on making life better for all of us - and to find out how to "crack the code" when it come to space travel - we will be able to do it.. To crack the code - and build a future not even the most adventurous forefather would have been able to do...


DU is a place, where you can find kind spirits from all parts of the world - sometimes you get along - others rub your feathers the wrong way - or I rub their feathers the wrong way at some point - a couple have even put me on ignore because of it... Mostly because I was not able to write in english what I really was telling about an issue. But I guess - it is a loss for them - not for me.



Diclotican

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
17. +1000 I agree with everything you said!
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:07 PM
Jun 2013

Keep talking; I'm on your wavelength!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. I watched those series for years on PBS, I felt very close to what he was saying. A different era.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:55 AM
Jun 2013

I miss it very much, and him. I was just posting somewhere a quote he said. It's in my Journal. I really must turn in.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
14. freshwest
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:04 AM
Jun 2013

freshwest

Yeah I know - it was a different era when people had time to just sit down and talk - even on TV.. And Sagan was great on that - talking and explaining things - even if it was on TV.. The whole concept of just communicate on TV is sorry to say - a idea that is starting to faltering as TV ratings is more important, than to get a message out about things.. I think the inventors of TV, would have discarded it as a bad idea if they could have looked 80 years ahead....

Diclotican

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
15. I still get chills
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:48 AM
Jun 2013

when I hear the Cosmos theme - Heaven and Hell by Vangelis, I believe.

I miss Carl.

mikeysnot

(4,926 posts)
16. The Demon-Haunted World
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jun 2013

Read this, it was so prescient, I just finished it from my local library.

He covers logical fallacies in political arguments and the lack of the importance in science in our education and the last two chapters on politics could have been written today.

It was published in 1996.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
18. Another book by Carl Sagan that I can definitely recommend:
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jun 2013
"Billions and Billions: Thoughts on Life and Death at the Brink of the Millennium." This was written when Carl was facing his own death from cancer. I was impressed by his courage, as well as his reason and his compassion. I think in some alternate reality, Carl would have made a wonderful Unitarian Universalist minister.
 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
19. Sagan was warning us about James Infhofe; Michelle Bachmann
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jun 2013

True Wisdom

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