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Florida State Attorney Angela Corey: This woman does not appear to be bothered in the least that she lost the case.
Neoma
(10,039 posts)blm
(113,097 posts)That's why she went for the tougher 2nd degree, to make it harder for PROSECUTION. The case was always a manslaughter case. Going for 2nd degree didn't make it harder for defense, it made it harder to prosecute and EASIER for the defense. Much of what played out in that courtroom was a dog and pony show by the state of Florida.
Think about this - there was a safety officer put on the stand by the defense and the prosecution never thought to ask him if he, when he visited schools as part of child safety programs, did he train children to trust their instinct of fear when they are being followed by an adult stranger while they are walking alone and that IF that adult stranger got close enough to grab them, they are supposed to fight, punch, kick at the stranger in hopes of making themselves too difficult, too troublesome for the adult stranger to pursue whatever they had in mind for that young person?
Now, kids will feel the need to give in to any adult stranger who gets that close to them, because if they try and fight for THEIR lives as they were previously instructed, the state of Florida says that it is OK for the adult stranger to kill them to protect themselves from the young person's punches and kicks.
That was always the ONLY thing in this case that was actually relevant, yet it was never the narrative of the case, was it?
I think the prosecution (along with the cops the night of the shooting) did not do their job. Murder 2 should have come off the table when Zimmerman refused to deal on manslaughter.
Roy Rolling
(6,936 posts)This woman makes Katherine Harris seem like a genius.
She is genuinely happy that the state lost the case...that was her objective all along.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)so full of shit, it's goddamn shame! Trayvon had no one one his side with that team. He was murdered and according to these people, that's it. Move on!!! Nothing to see here! geez.
livingonearth
(728 posts)She's glad the truth got out?????
It's like they weren't even trying.
Cronus Protagonist
(15,574 posts)Which, of course, is par for the course, but nowhere near an effective prosecution. "He's lying" isn't indictable.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)focus on the forensic evidence or put Zimmerman on the stand. If Zimmerman had been forced to either be silent or face cross-examination, the prosecution would have been better off. But of course that is assuming that the prosecution wanted to win in the first place.
Politically, the prosecution is better off being able to claim they did the right thing by putting "all the facts" (some of which were not facts at all but self-serving lies of Zimmerman) and letting the jury decide.
16 hours is not that long to deliberate a case of this complexity.
What a travesty of justice.
But juries are unpredictable.
Cronus Protagonist
(15,574 posts)That was total hearsay and should not have been used. It was a way for Zimbo to get his side in without any cross examination. Did you see the smirk on his face when they showed that? He knew he had won some brownie points and I bet he owes someone in the DA's office a few beers for that.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The family would have sued the cops for not arresting Zimmerman.
Face it folks. There wouldn't even have BEEN a trial if there wasn't a highly publicized march on this.
Am I the ONLY ONE HERE to remember how many sham trials they used to hold in the South?
Remember, the prosecution in this case wasn't representing the FAMILY of Trayvon. It was representing the STATE that never wanted to try the case in the first place and was facing a major lawsuit by that family with a guilty verdict.
Cases like this were COMMON decades ago which was why the Federal Government had to intervene.
livingonearth
(728 posts)Don't let the trolls bury it.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)for posterity and filed away for later use.
nirvana555
(448 posts)she was with The State,I just couldn't believe it......
Theyletmeeatcake2
(348 posts)Trump the right of self defence of those not bearing arms? This is so bizarre !! If TRayvon had been packing heat and shot the person threatening him then of course he would of got off......somehow I have a feeling it would have been a totally different result .A sad result!
Chisox08
(1,898 posts)There wouldn't have been a trail because the police would have came in guns blazing and Trayvon would be dead as well.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Not necessarily partisan political environment, but many of them have political aspirations, and within their offices, there is a lot of politics.
The prosecutors here erred in placing Zimmerman's one-sided version of the story into the center of the evidence.
They assumed that Zimmerman was telling the truth. By putting videos, etc. of Zimmerman telling his story into the prosecution evidence, they 1) relieved the defense of having to decide whether to put Zimmerman on the stand and thus, could never cross-examine Zimmerman (very stupid, unbelievably stupid); 2) relieved the jury of the job of figuring out what happened for themselves (very easy to just agree to Zimmerman's story) and; 3) placed Zimmerman's theory of the case in the center of their prosecution rather than the more important and more truthful forensic evidence.
Trayvon Martin did not get to tell his story. The forensic evidence was Trayvon Martin's story.
Saying this, I must add that I did not watch the trial in detail. This is based on my overview of what evidence was presented.
To me it is unbelievable that a prosecutor or plaintiff's attorney thinks he or she should present the defendant's side of the story for him. Just unbelievable.
The prosecutor's job is to be fair. Yes. But here, I don't think that the prosecutor was fair to the people that he represented.
The result of this trial is that Zimmerman and killers like him are emboldened to kill kids more often believing they will not be punished.
What a tragedy.
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)I really dislike this woman
Quantess
(27,630 posts)She's acting like she accepted an award at an awards ceremony. Something really wrong, here.
I'm barely even interested in this case, and I haven't followed it too closely, so this is just a total surprise to see their reaction to losing.