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The Zimmerman Case Prosecution Team - Post Verdict. WTF? (Original Post) KeepItReal Jul 2013 OP
Could she have been paid off by someone daddy? Neoma Jul 2013 #1
Her goal was always to protect Florida's laws that protect gun owners. blm Jul 2013 #2
Great post exboyfil Jul 2013 #4
Agreed. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #18
Deja vu all over again Roy Rolling Jul 2013 #3
she's heaven05 Jul 2013 #5
This is making me sick! livingonearth Jul 2013 #6
It seemed to me that they were intent on proving Zimbo being a LIAR Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #10
They should have ignored the police tapes of Zimmerman and forced the defense to either JDPriestly Jul 2013 #17
The prosecution used the tapes made at Fox Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #19
They threw the case to avoid liability.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #7
Keep this on top, people. livingonearth Jul 2013 #8
bookmarked heaven05 Jul 2013 #9
I was so freaked out when I saw this! At first I thought she was with the defense team. When I saw nirvana555 Jul 2013 #11
X2 ctsnowman Jul 2013 #12
Does the right to bear arms Theyletmeeatcake2 Jul 2013 #13
If Trayvon would have had a gun and shot Zimmerman Chisox08 Jul 2013 #14
All these white folk patting themselves on the back. Like the aftermath of any lynching. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2013 #15
Prosecutors are essentially politiicians. They live in a very political environment. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #16
they need to keep their prayer crap to themselves. INAPPROPRIATE. ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #20
yes, Angela, it's all about you and your paralegals. BARF. ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #21
K&R big lu Jul 2013 #22
This is weird to me. I was not expecting this. Quantess Jul 2013 #23

blm

(113,097 posts)
2. Her goal was always to protect Florida's laws that protect gun owners.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jul 2013

That's why she went for the tougher 2nd degree, to make it harder for PROSECUTION. The case was always a manslaughter case. Going for 2nd degree didn't make it harder for defense, it made it harder to prosecute and EASIER for the defense. Much of what played out in that courtroom was a dog and pony show by the state of Florida.

Think about this - there was a safety officer put on the stand by the defense and the prosecution never thought to ask him if he, when he visited schools as part of child safety programs, did he train children to trust their instinct of fear when they are being followed by an adult stranger while they are walking alone and that IF that adult stranger got close enough to grab them, they are supposed to fight, punch, kick at the stranger in hopes of making themselves too difficult, too troublesome for the adult stranger to pursue whatever they had in mind for that young person?

Now, kids will feel the need to give in to any adult stranger who gets that close to them, because if they try and fight for THEIR lives as they were previously instructed, the state of Florida says that it is OK for the adult stranger to kill them to protect themselves from the young person's punches and kicks.

That was always the ONLY thing in this case that was actually relevant, yet it was never the narrative of the case, was it?

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
4. Great post
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jul 2013

I think the prosecution (along with the cops the night of the shooting) did not do their job. Murder 2 should have come off the table when Zimmerman refused to deal on manslaughter.

Roy Rolling

(6,936 posts)
3. Deja vu all over again
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jul 2013

This woman makes Katherine Harris seem like a genius.

She is genuinely happy that the state lost the case...that was her objective all along.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. she's
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:09 PM
Jul 2013

so full of shit, it's goddamn shame! Trayvon had no one one his side with that team. He was murdered and according to these people, that's it. Move on!!! Nothing to see here! geez.

Cronus Protagonist

(15,574 posts)
10. It seemed to me that they were intent on proving Zimbo being a LIAR
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jul 2013

Which, of course, is par for the course, but nowhere near an effective prosecution. "He's lying" isn't indictable.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. They should have ignored the police tapes of Zimmerman and forced the defense to either
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:03 PM
Jul 2013

focus on the forensic evidence or put Zimmerman on the stand. If Zimmerman had been forced to either be silent or face cross-examination, the prosecution would have been better off. But of course that is assuming that the prosecution wanted to win in the first place.

Politically, the prosecution is better off being able to claim they did the right thing by putting "all the facts" (some of which were not facts at all but self-serving lies of Zimmerman) and letting the jury decide.

16 hours is not that long to deliberate a case of this complexity.

What a travesty of justice.

But juries are unpredictable.

Cronus Protagonist

(15,574 posts)
19. The prosecution used the tapes made at Fox
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jul 2013

That was total hearsay and should not have been used. It was a way for Zimbo to get his side in without any cross examination. Did you see the smirk on his face when they showed that? He knew he had won some brownie points and I bet he owes someone in the DA's office a few beers for that.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
7. They threw the case to avoid liability....
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jul 2013

The family would have sued the cops for not arresting Zimmerman.

Face it folks. There wouldn't even have BEEN a trial if there wasn't a highly publicized march on this.

Am I the ONLY ONE HERE to remember how many sham trials they used to hold in the South?

Remember, the prosecution in this case wasn't representing the FAMILY of Trayvon. It was representing the STATE that never wanted to try the case in the first place and was facing a major lawsuit by that family with a guilty verdict.

Cases like this were COMMON decades ago which was why the Federal Government had to intervene.

nirvana555

(448 posts)
11. I was so freaked out when I saw this! At first I thought she was with the defense team. When I saw
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:13 PM
Jul 2013

she was with The State,I just couldn't believe it......

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
13. Does the right to bear arms
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jul 2013

Trump the right of self defence of those not bearing arms? This is so bizarre !! If TRayvon had been packing heat and shot the person threatening him then of course he would of got off......somehow I have a feeling it would have been a totally different result .A sad result!

Chisox08

(1,898 posts)
14. If Trayvon would have had a gun and shot Zimmerman
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jul 2013

There wouldn't have been a trail because the police would have came in guns blazing and Trayvon would be dead as well.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Prosecutors are essentially politiicians. They live in a very political environment.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jul 2013

Not necessarily partisan political environment, but many of them have political aspirations, and within their offices, there is a lot of politics.

The prosecutors here erred in placing Zimmerman's one-sided version of the story into the center of the evidence.

They assumed that Zimmerman was telling the truth. By putting videos, etc. of Zimmerman telling his story into the prosecution evidence, they 1) relieved the defense of having to decide whether to put Zimmerman on the stand and thus, could never cross-examine Zimmerman (very stupid, unbelievably stupid); 2) relieved the jury of the job of figuring out what happened for themselves (very easy to just agree to Zimmerman's story) and; 3) placed Zimmerman's theory of the case in the center of their prosecution rather than the more important and more truthful forensic evidence.

Trayvon Martin did not get to tell his story. The forensic evidence was Trayvon Martin's story.

Saying this, I must add that I did not watch the trial in detail. This is based on my overview of what evidence was presented.

To me it is unbelievable that a prosecutor or plaintiff's attorney thinks he or she should present the defendant's side of the story for him. Just unbelievable.

The prosecutor's job is to be fair. Yes. But here, I don't think that the prosecutor was fair to the people that he represented.

The result of this trial is that Zimmerman and killers like him are emboldened to kill kids more often believing they will not be punished.

What a tragedy.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
23. This is weird to me. I was not expecting this.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jul 2013

She's acting like she accepted an award at an awards ceremony. Something really wrong, here.

I'm barely even interested in this case, and I haven't followed it too closely, so this is just a total surprise to see their reaction to losing.

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