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Fearless

(18,458 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 05:27 AM Aug 2013

Russian paratroopers violently attack lone gay rights activist in St Petersburg




For more: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/05/video-russian-paratroopers-violently-attack-lone-gay-rights-activist-in-st-petersburg/

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/06/gay-teenager-kidnapped-and-tortured-by-russian-homophobes-believed-to-have-died-from-injuries/

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This is what is going on. And this is the G Rated stuff. So, basically, it's not a joke. It's not a fluff bit of news as even some DUers have tried to claim it was. This stuff is important. People's lives and people's happiness are at stake.
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Russian paratroopers violently attack lone gay rights activist in St Petersburg (Original Post) Fearless Aug 2013 OP
Human beings are nasty bunch. Using the old book, designate targets to unite RKP5637 Aug 2013 #1
If you watch the video a little more closely . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #2
You have what happened correct. pangaia Aug 2013 #3
Thanks for clarifying that. I'm sure it is a deeply powerful place to visit. another_liberal Aug 2013 #9
That is correct Fearless Aug 2013 #7
It is a disgusting thing to witness. Fortunately, the authorities did step in to stop it. another_liberal Aug 2013 #10
True. I'm also worried about Fearless Aug 2013 #11
Good point. another_liberal Aug 2013 #12
so why did the police protect the one guy if all of russian authority is anti-gay? ellenfl Aug 2013 #13
Exactly! another_liberal Aug 2013 #14
I'm glad the Russian Special Purpose Mobile Unit (OMOH) broke it up aikoaiko Aug 2013 #4
I had posted this the other day when it happened on LGBT activism. JimboBillyBubbaBob Aug 2013 #5
The Russian police who break it up have patches that say "OMOH" (!?) KurtNYC Aug 2013 #6
+1 Fearless Aug 2013 #8

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. Human beings are nasty bunch. Using the old book, designate targets to unite
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 06:48 AM
Aug 2013

the masses, same old shit, again and again ... and people are so easily propagandized, as history replays. To me, Russia is quickly sliding backward ...

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
2. If you watch the video a little more closely . . .
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 07:18 AM
Aug 2013

The gay rights activist is the red-haired young man in in the black leather jacket, correct. If so, though he is obviously threatened and pushed around by these stripe-shirted, "Spetnaz" thugs, he is not the one on whom the blows are really rained down. If you watch the video a little more closely, you will notice the young man is hurried off to safety in a police car, while the thugs are the ones who get the real beatings by the police, who can be distinguished by the green camouflage uniforms they wear. Several of the abusive Spetnaz types are later seem being forcibly loaded onto a police bus, clearly to take them "downtown" for booking on various charges.

From an historical point of view it is also poignant that this all appears to take place in the square in front of the Winter Palace, on the very pavement where hundreds of starving protesters were shot down by Czarist troops in a massacre which began the 1905 revolution.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
3. You have what happened correct.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 07:50 AM
Aug 2013

And the location. I stood on that square in January 1985, 20 below zero in the snow...It is a powerful place...

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
9. Thanks for clarifying that. I'm sure it is a deeply powerful place to visit.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:22 PM
Aug 2013

If I might add, this drive to gin-up a boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics seems completely unjustified. If we are going to boycott every Olympics held in a country whose population contains a minority of ignorant, violent and vicious homophobic people, we are not going to be attending many more Olympics, including any future ones held in our own country!

The Russian people as a whole and their ancient and colorful culture are more deserving of our respect than this current boycott movement suggests. Narrow-minded, bigoted Russophobia is as repulsive as is narrow-minded, bigoted homophobia.

Fearless

(18,458 posts)
7. That is correct
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:18 PM
Aug 2013

The title is not my own. Still it speaks volumes that this can happen at all.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
10. It is a disgusting thing to witness. Fortunately, the authorities did step in to stop it.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:29 PM
Aug 2013

That this can happen in a major city in Russia is clearly awful, surely you know that the same scene could easily have taken place in any major American city as well. I really don't see the need to paint all of Russian society with the same homophobic brush. After all, several ordinary Russians can be seen in the video trying to separate the thugs from their gay activist victim before the police intervene to break it up, right?

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. Good point.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:38 PM
Aug 2013

They may well have wanted to videotape a gay beating, and may well have organized the whole thing with the attackers beforehand.

In defense of the vast majority of decent Russians, I must note that such a predatory setup is hardly an exclusively Russian practice.

ellenfl

(8,660 posts)
13. so why did the police protect the one guy if all of russian authority is anti-gay?
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 01:58 PM
Aug 2013

a translation would have helped. it seems to me the police would have left the bullies alone if the edict from on high was being followed. hopefully, clearer, more compassionate heads will prevail.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
14. Exactly!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 04:30 PM
Aug 2013

If Russia's governing authority really wanted gays abused, the young man in the video would have been sent to the hospital, or worse. He would not have been separated from his attackers by the police.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
4. I'm glad the Russian Special Purpose Mobile Unit (OMOH) broke it up
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:18 AM
Aug 2013

They shuffled the gay activist off -- hopefully to be released unharmed.

And then they heavy-handedly rousted up the abusive paratroopers.

JimboBillyBubbaBob

(1,389 posts)
5. I had posted this the other day when it happened on LGBT activism.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:11 AM
Aug 2013

It seems as if these "Russian Stripe Shirts" are channeling "Nazi Brown Shirts." There is a bizarre irony in the young red-headed man's rescuers name emblazoned on their uniforms. It is spelled OMOH. The acronym, although in Russian, is HOMO is English when viewed backwards. The whole episode is down right strange.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. The Russian police who break it up have patches that say "OMOH" (!?)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:21 AM
Aug 2013

and the paratroopers (?) are wearing skin tight sleeveless shirts while standing arm in arm.

It is like video from some bizarre parallel universe where the 'gay rights activist' is the straightest looking one of the bunch.

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