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Sanjay Gupta, MD on naloxone, OD rescue tx (CNN) (Original Post) pinto Nov 2013 OP
Whaaaaaa? Warpy Nov 2013 #1
The big change are laws allowing non-medical administration of naloxone. pinto Nov 2013 #2
That makes a great deal of sense Warpy Nov 2013 #3
Narcan, Clinton and the Israeli incident riverwalker Nov 2013 #4
How does any of this relate to current social OD prevention / intervention? pinto Nov 2013 #5

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
1. Whaaaaaa?
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:01 PM
Nov 2013

They've been reversing ODs with naloxone for decades. Gupta should know this stuff. They bring in somebody with shallow to nonexistant breathing, unconscious and with pinpoint pupils, naloxone is the first thing they use. Generally the patient wakes right up having withdrawal symptoms and is not happy about it.

"Bringing them back to life" is a misnomer. They aint dead yet but will be without treatment.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
2. The big change are laws allowing non-medical administration of naloxone.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:07 PM
Nov 2013

Syringe exchanges are distributing naloxone to exchangers directly for on-site use in the event of an OD.
i.e. administer immediately, call 911.



(on edit) I agree with the poor choice of wording in the lead-in header.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
3. That makes a great deal of sense
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:23 PM
Nov 2013

I remember the bad old days in the 60s when somebody would OD and the flatmates would toss the body off the roof so the cops would think it was a suicide instead of suspecting drugs. It never worked.

Reversing the drug with Naloxone right then and there is a better idea. Moralists are likely to shriek over it since they seem to want all drug users dead.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
4. Narcan, Clinton and the Israeli incident
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 07:47 PM
Nov 2013

Whenever I hear of Narcan I think of the International incident in the 90's. A guy was almost killed with a Fentanyl dart, Clinton demanded to know the poison and the antidote.
It reads like a spy novel, but it's all true.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/15/world/the-daring-attack-that-blew-up-in-israel-s-face.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm



The Daring Attack That Blew Up in Israel's Face

By ALAN COWELL
Published: October 15, 1997

Over many years, it has been an open secret in the Middle East that Israel and Jordan have quietly cooperated on a host of covert projects. And so, diplomats here say, King Hussein was not surprised on Sept. 25 when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called to ask that he immediately meet Israel's chief spymaster.

Danni Yatom, the head of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency, was a frequent, if unheralded, visitor to Amman, according to the diplomats. The King assumed he would be discussing a new peace overture relating to Hamas, the radical Palestinian Islamic group, which had taken responsibility for two devastating suicide-bombings in Jerusalem over the summer.

Mr. Yatom had considerably grimmer news to convey, according to an account of his meeting provided by Israeli and Jordanian officials. Only three or four hours earlier, he told the King, an Israeli operation to assassinate Khaled Meshal, a Hamas political figure, had gone awry on the streets of Amman. Two Israeli agents posing as Canadian visitors were in a Jordanian jail and Mr. Yatom wanted the King's cooperation in getting them freed.
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