Rachel Maddow - This is why Democrats want Warren to run

[Galraedia]

[NYC_SKP]

1. Please run for President of the United States in 2016, Senator Warren!!!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. You silly Democrat, don't you understand that Hillary Clinton has this election won already?

On a serious note, I hope that my new senior senator does not run, and that she serves Massachusetts for a while.

The GOPigs are always trying to make inroads in this state, and with her new win I hope that she cements a Democratic hold on the state for some time to come.

That doesn't mean that I don't believe that she would make a fine President, but I would like her to be a fine Senator first.

[NYC_SKP]

5. I remember her. She ran in 2008 & was defeated by community organizer black dude B. Hussein Obama.

She was pre-selected at that time, too, and lost to a black dude.

[7962]

8. But who is comparable to the Obama "wow" factor of 08?

I dont see anyone out there that will get people excited. Warren says she wont run, so who else?

[NYC_SKP]

9. The right person won't need to have quite the same appeal. HRC is 8 years older, no more appealing.

If anything, Hillary is less appealing than she was in 2007, she's older, more of her centrist/corporatist connections have come to light.

Might as well run Diane Feinstein as Hillary Clinton.

We have to do better than this.

Put the right man or woman up against the best on the right and we'll win.

[StevieM]

12. Regardless of how you personally may feel, the poll numbers don't indicate that this position is

prevalent within the party. And no, Hillary's poll numbers in 2005-2007 were nothing compared to what they are this time around. She generally got 35% of the vote in the early polling. Obama entered in the low 20s. Her original lead over him was about 15 points. This time around, Clinton is polling in the mid-60s with Joe Biden--the sitting vice-president--at about 10 percent.

None of this means that she will win. Just that she seems to be appealing to a lot of people.

[NYC_SKP]

13. Poll numbers are all about name recognition. Worthless fodder for the masses.

Poll numbers are like junkfood: distractive and non-nutritional.

[StevieM]

15. Joe Biden has pretty good name recognition too.

This early lead has to be considered impressive IMO. It is not something that is normally seen, especially not when placed against a sitting vice-president. This doesn't mean that she will win. It just means that she is in a good position.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. Agreed, Hillary WAYYY past her prime.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

20. "We have to do better than this."

Yes we do, but frankly I am not surprised that Hillary is already being forced down our throats as a sure win by the third wrong way corporatistas.

We do have to better by this country than serving the same old re-warmed dinner from last night.

[JDPriestly]

24. Elizabeth Warren will get people that excited.

She will appeal to people of all ages and all backgrounds. Hillary won't.

[FailureToCommunicate]

11. Sorry but we need her here. She's a good freshman Senator who has a great

grasp of the economic divide and injustices...

And, she'd do well in some future administration - maybe Fed chair or such...

However, she almost certainly would NOT win an election for President.

Top advisor to one, sure, but not top of the ticket.

[NYC_SKP]

14. Better than Clinton, for sure.

We need more good Senators, to be sure, but we don't need to swallow Hillary just because we need good Senators.

[Plucketeer]

34. I'd sure love to see

Hillary and Elizabeth debate specific domestic and foreign topics. That would have to be SO revealing as to just who Clinton serves.

[NYC_SKP]

35. I think it would be a massacre.

I would kind of hate to watch two bright Democratic women go at it, but it would really reveal what needs to be seen.

[JDPriestly]

25. I strongly disagree. She will win more votes and a higher percentage of votes than even

Barack Obama.

She speaks the people's language. She is talking on our behalf. No other politician in either party can or will do that like she does.

She is absolutely the greatest communicator I have seen in a long, long time. She will excite people and get out the vote. Hillary will not do that like Elizabeth Warren will. Just wait. If we can get Elizabeth Warren to run, she will do extremely well.

[drynberg]

29. YES, right on!

Liz in '16!

[freebrew]

32. You realize what day this is?

Do you think the PTB will stand for a real progressive with a chance to win?

I really like Warren, she needs to stay a senator where she can stay longer and be safer.

Not sure who to run for potus, maybe the star has yet to arrive.

[Scuba]

2. Values, values, values. And math. All point to expanding SS.

Thank you Elizabeth!!!

[mercymechap]

3. I think Elizabeth Warren is great

but she needs more time in the Senate. Hillary has already proven herself strong in the polls and is more to the center than Warren.

I don't believe she has said she would run, she's a smart cookie, and I think she will know when her time is right, and then she will do great.

[Fearless]

7. The center moved right.

A democrat who its more republican is not a good quality.

[silvershadow]

6. Thank you. nt.

[freshwest]

10. Kudos to Rachel; Warren on track; I love facts; Austerity is a lie; but...

I don't see Warren being able to debate a wing nut. They are persistent loud mouths and the debates are rigged against the Democrats, as is media.

I can just see some idiot like Christie, Paul, Cruz or another, making cheap shots and telling lies repeatedly, not answering questions, yelling over the voice of reason that she represents, to the roar of the idiots in the audience. And Democrats will get upset when the media says she lost the pissing contest, even though she says the truth.

Despite Warren's level of commitment and her competence, I can't see her as electable. For that matter, I don't see Hillary as electable, either, unless the Democrats show up in numbers like they did for Obama in 2008. I don't see that happening.

I am more impressed with Hillary after some of her resume was posted here. But we have a troglodyte segment of this country that will NEVER accept either of these women no more than they accepted THAT MAN being BLACK in THEIR WHITE HOUSE. Good gawd, what a huge disappointment it's been.

It sickens me to see the depths that this nation has been brought down by the great teacher, media. And just how close these fascists are to winning. Even here at DU we are not immune to their BS. Because we get our info from the poisoned river of billionaire media.

But seeing Maddox and Warren talking to each other, so self-aware, able to understand the past, present and future of what we could be as a nation is uplifting. I refuse to watch television media but am grateful DUers take the time to post Maddox and other good videos here showing there is a change in the wind, even if not reflected in MIC media.

When Warren said Social Security cuts are off the table, what a relief to so many people. Still, the dreaded tax word was avoided, as usual. Proving the Koches and Grover still stifle the national conversation.

BTW, anyone catch that elephant in the banner holding his beggar cup out and these words?

SPARE SOME CHANGE?

Is it a slap at Democrats or Republicans?

Anyway, the focus must be on 2014 still. That is how the House will be cleaned as Warren says. We can't forget this. And we can't afford to let the status quo continue.

Thanks for posting.

[sheshe2]

16. Well said, freshwest.

I love Senator Warren. I voted for her, I went to see her speak.

Yet I have problems posting on the Op's that want her to run. My belief, and yes it may just be me, I believe she can do more good for us and more damage to the GOP and banksters where she is. She is an amazing and forceful woman. She is righteous!

The Senate is her time and her place. Look what our beloved Senator Ted Kennedy did for us.

The Lion Sleeps Tonight: Ted Kennedy Leaves Long, Impressive Legacy

Gender Equity:

Kennedy saw the Senate of the Equal Rights Amendment in 1972, which aimed to make men and women equal in the constitution. He reintroduced the legislation again this congressional session, but it has yet to make it into the constitution.

Kennedy championed Title IX of the Civil Rights Act in 1972, which prevented educational institutions from discriminating against women (afterward, colleges and universities integrated, paving the way for women like Sonia Sotomayor and Hillary Clinton to attend Ivy League institutions), as well as requiring equitable athletic opportunities.

Civil Rights:

Kennedy saw the passage of the Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1988 as committee chairman, which strengthened the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Afterward, then-executive director of the Leadership Council on Civil Rights Ralph Neas said, "Now you see what happens when you have a civil rights champion in charge of the committee."

He was also chief sponsor on the Civil Rights Act of 1991, which addressed intentional discrimination and harassment in the workplace. He was also a key sponsor of legislation by the same name in 2008, which sought to restore civil rights protections stripped by Supreme Court rulings in recent years (like the Lilly Ledbetter case).

So much more here~
http://jezebel.com/5345863/the-lion-sleeps-tonight-ted-kennedy-leaves-long-impressive-legacy

[freshwest]

18. I believe that Warren will be close to Kennedy in accomplishments. She has said she won't run.

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But I'm sure the people posting these are just showing their enthusiasm for her, but more so, the ideas she represents.

It's disturbing to me any of the Northeast would vote for a Koch puppet like Christie.

We're in a different time than the young Kennedys were. They all what they could to make the world a better place.

Warren is a treasure and I thank Obama for talking her into public service. It's a very hard thing going against the status quo.

[JDPriestly]

26. I want to see Warren run.

I want the American people of the right and left to hear her ideas. I'd also like to see Bernie Sanders run. I think Elizabeth Warren is the most electable of the Democrats right now. I really want to see her run. She is a gracious lady. The 2016 election will be about values. Elizabeth Warren represents the old-fashioned values of the Democratic Party. Hillary Clinton represents the banks. So do all the Republicans. Elizabeth Warren represents the American people. Therein lies the contrast. And that is why Elizabeth Warren will beat Hillary Clinton or any Republican any day.

[CTyankee]

30. how do you see her in a debate with Chris Christie?

My hope, if he is the repub. nominee, is that he loses it in a tough debate and tries to bully her. I want to see him snarl in her face and look menacing. She won't be fazed one bit but he'll lose so badly that she could very well destroy him...

[freshwest]

36. If the debate is well moderated, she could win. But the troglodyte public won't listen to her.

He's being closely taught by the Koches right now in their meeting as reported on DU and will parrot some line of BS that the talking heads will say are important issues and call Warren a nutjob.

JMHO.

[delrem]

19. That was an amazingly intense moment of truth.

I think she can win '16, but only if Dems get solidly behind her, including other leading Dems.

But whatever, we are blessed to have Elizabeth Warren to speak for us.

[wildbilln864]

21. Warren/Sanders in 2016! or

Sanders/Warren. Either would be great for my country!

[wreq]

22. Warren For President? Hell Yes!!!

Senator Warren makes more sense in 8 minutes then most senators make in a lifetime. Hillary who?

[blue14u]

23. Warren for POTUS 2016!!!

[Laelth]

27. k&r for Elizabeth Warren. n/t

-Laelth

[Enthusiast]

28. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch for Elizabeth Warren!

If you don't want Warren start looking for someone besides Hillary, because Hillary is clearly a third way advocate.

[lonestarnot]

31. Yeah Senator Warren!

[blackspade]

33. Wow. That was stump speach if I ever heard one.

She is right on all of this and the delivery was politically perfect.

[bvar22]

37. The really sad part about this is...

...that Senator Warren is a MAINSTREAM Traditional Democrat.
There should be nothing unusual about what she said in this clip.
30 years ago, she wouldn't have stood out at all.
This USED TO BE solid Democratic Party Boilerplate.


How FAR we have fallen.