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When challenged Ted Cruz becomes a whimp!! (Original Post) Lobo27 Nov 2013 OP
Most bullies turn into cowards when confronted. nt ladjf Nov 2013 #1
You beat me to it! Or they act out even more. He must be such a *joy* at home. freshwest Nov 2013 #3
Deceit and Lies; Mark of Satan. DhhD Nov 2013 #13
Meh. I think Satan might be more interesting than Cruz. merrily Nov 2013 #20
This! yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #31
Competition across state lines equals one thing, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #2
+1 ! SoapBox Nov 2013 #9
I'm sorry, isn't that part of the ACA? Tigress DEM Nov 2013 #21
Don't think so. progressoid Nov 2013 #22
It did in 2010 - maybe the rethugs took it out. Tigress DEM Nov 2013 #25
When the person told Ted Cruz their insurwnce had been canceled and their child had Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #4
That's not it jmowreader Nov 2013 #23
"Well, I I I I ..." Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #5
It's that Cuomo blood. pangaia Nov 2013 #17
Whatever it was, that was a great interview. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #29
Bullies are always like that Warpy Nov 2013 #6
I write about that all the time.. Romney used the technique all through the debates.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #8
Moderators would help if they weren't all whipped dogs Warpy Nov 2013 #10
You know what? Thats only part of the problem.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #11
Laugh at them, chervilant Nov 2013 #18
I hate Gish Gallop. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #38
When you hear these low numbers for "Obamacare" it's because MOST people are getting Medicaid... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #7
Thanking you for this for multiple reasons navarth Nov 2013 #12
Me too. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #39
k&r. silvershadow Nov 2013 #14
K&R JohnnyRingo Nov 2013 #15
This is a must watch. It's actually Cenk Uygur doing the commentary.. truth2power Nov 2013 #16
Cruz is a "slimy Individual" in spades! maddiemom Nov 2013 #42
HOW in the WORLD chervilant Nov 2013 #19
Same way Saint Sarah did jmowreader Nov 2013 #24
Seriously. Has to be the biggest moron in the Senate. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #27
I have come to the conclusion that the Koch Bros giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #30
I keep asking catrose Nov 2013 #41
Carnival Cruz is a joke and a wimp Gothmog Nov 2013 #26
Living in a bubble all your life will do that to a what ever orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #28
anyone else think Ted channels this guy? Skittles Nov 2013 #32
I FIGURED OUT who Cruz reminds me of... yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #33
it was that catch in Ted's voice, and the wonky eyes Skittles Nov 2013 #35
nope... I can watch yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #36
lol Skittles Nov 2013 #37
Ted just failed the warm up quiz for winning the GOP nomination. If you kill Obamacare, SDjack Nov 2013 #34
DAMN!!!!! that wasn't even a hard hitting interview.Hillary would MASSACRE!! this boy in a debate bigdarryl Nov 2013 #40
Kickeroo! Cha Nov 2013 #43

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
25. It did in 2010 - maybe the rethugs took it out.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:43 PM
Nov 2013

But I thought that was why the BIG insurance companies like United Health Care pulled out of California market... because the requirement of complying with minimum level of insurance regulation cramped their style.

MAYBE we lost the part about buying across state lines and kept the consumer protection piece?

http://www.urban.org/publications/412195.html

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PACA) includes provisions that allow the purchasing of health insurance across state lines. However, these provisions are structured somewhat differently than earlier proposals. The differences are intended to provide states with more consumer protections from having those regulations undermined by cross state sales of insurance. The most important differences between the PPACA compact provisions and earlier interstate sales provisions are that the PPACA requires all states to comply with a minimum level of insurance regulation, and cross state sales would not be permitted in a state unless that state affirmatively joined a compact with one or more other states.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. When the person told Ted Cruz their insurwnce had been canceled and their child had
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:12 PM
Nov 2013

Diabetes Ted should have told them with Obamacare their child with diabetes would nit be canceled because of a pre-existing condition. Cruz provided a really good reason to have Obamacare.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
23. That's not it
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 04:54 PM
Nov 2013

He's saying the person's insurance company cancelled "because of Obamacare." Which means the insurance company really wanted to sell them a far more expensive policy and needed to deal with the grandfathering issue.

The strange thing about this "sell across state lines" is twofoldd:

One is we are talking about nationwide companies. It's not like there are fifty little Hartfords.

Two, the GOP's favorite phrase is State Sovereignty, but consider: every state of the fifty has an insurance commission that regulates that trade. Would not allowing insurance companies to move to the state with either the loosest regulation or highest rates essentially wipe out the sovereignty of the several states?

Now flip to an alternate reality: they talk about auto insurance when discussing health insurance. You know, you can go to any car insurance company in America and buy that. You can...but let's say you live in Minnesota and fly to Los Angeles to buy a car. When you insure the thing, the California insurance agency will sell you Minnesota-compliant insurance. If the law allowing insurance sales across state lines doesn't kill the state insurance commissions, your insurance policy will still have the required coverages from your state insurance commission.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. "Well, I I I I ..."
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:22 PM
Nov 2013

Loved Cruz tripping all over himself when asked a great question. It was so great to see Chris push for answers. In fact, I think that I am going to try to find that whole interview. Hard hitting, but not impolite like it would have been if it was Rush or Beck interviewing Harry Reid.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
29. Whatever it was, that was a great interview.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 07:14 PM
Nov 2013

Mario Cuomo definitely was a no-nonsense mayor. And that interview was no-nonsense.

I was disappointed that I could not find the full interview. It was posted on CNN with only the parts that were already shown.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
6. Bullies are always like that
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:33 PM
Nov 2013

It's why they rely so heavily on the Gish Gallop and never letting anyone else get a word into the torrent of lies.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
8. I write about that all the time.. Romney used the technique all through the debates..
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:48 PM
Nov 2013

The thing that really pisses me off is that everyone knows its coming but very few do anything to counteract it.

How about this... “We need to stop right here, right now and discuss the lie you just threw out, I will not continue this debate until we go back to your previous statement and take it point by point”.. Thats what I’m saying..

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
10. Moderators would help if they weren't all whipped dogs
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:58 PM
Nov 2013

Biden showed everybody the way to do it, laugh at them.

They hate that. It really throws them off.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
11. You know what? Thats only part of the problem..
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 07:14 PM
Nov 2013

The guys on T.V. are not familiar enough with the facts to shut the liars down..

Our Dem. Politicians are almost as bad but for another reason, They find it difficult to use force in the exchanges, want to maintain dignity..

A la W. Wasserman...Last time on she just shook her head when one of the Repub. a.holes were lying their heads off.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
18. Laugh at them,
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:28 PM
Nov 2013

then--when they protest, as they do--simply state, "But what you said is just so laughable!"

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
7. When you hear these low numbers for "Obamacare" it's because MOST people are getting Medicaid...
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:46 PM
Nov 2013

The exchanges are for upper income types who buy their own healthcare.

The thing that people are discovering is they are actually much poorer than they thought.

Turns out that job as assistant manager at McDonalds didn't put you in the market for a Lear Jet after all.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
12. Thanking you for this for multiple reasons
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 09:49 PM
Nov 2013

It's been too long since I had a good dose of Cenk. I miss the Turks!!! Such great energy. I think I got too dispirited when Current TV went down.

I'm gonna hang out at TYT again, it's been too long.

Thanks.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
16. This is a must watch. It's actually Cenk Uygur doing the commentary..
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:37 AM
Nov 2013

Ted Cruz is a slimy, creepy individual. Makes my skin crawl.

But the most important point was something I already knew, but I never hear the Democrats (um..the people who are supposedly working for US) say, and that's that the reason why Cruz and his ilk want insurance to be sold across state lines is that the insurance companies would all incorporate in Delaware or some such place where there are essentially no regulations.

Why aren't Democrats saying this over and over and over? Why isn't Pres. Obama saying this? It could be a teachable moment for the American people.

I think I've answered my own question.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
42. Cruz is a "slimy Individual" in spades!
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:42 AM
Nov 2013

That Chris Cuomo is such a bright, articulate and attractive individual made the contrast all the more obvious, even if in a "petty," surface way. It was like Kennedy versus Nixon---except I'd welcome Nixon with a huge hug if he were occupying the same space that Cruz is currently.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
30. I have come to the conclusion that the Koch Bros
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 07:53 PM
Nov 2013

handpicked the dumbest people they could find because they are the easiest to manipulate. I mean look at them, not one of them can think for themselves, all of their lines have to be scripted, and when they aren't they are screwed. Then they gerrymandered their districts so they were so red & inbred they would get voted in regardless.

And Ta Da.. our Government is ran by imbeciles..

Gothmog

(145,195 posts)
26. Carnival Cruz is a joke and a wimp
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:49 PM
Nov 2013

Carnival Cruz depends on people not questioning his lies and misstatements

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
28. Living in a bubble all your life will do that to a what ever
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:54 PM
Nov 2013

he is, because he sure isn't people person, and in his business that's a problem . Just another Kkkarl invented cartoon character, to incite the idiots who are already hypnotized by that guy who sounds like he has marbles in his mouth . MSM had to cram him down our throats,before we even knew who he was, that should be a clue .

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
33. I FIGURED OUT who Cruz reminds me of...
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:59 PM
Nov 2013


Mr. Haney (Green Acres)

Edited: Wow Skittles... MUST be on the SAME brain channel on this one!!

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
37. lol
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:24 AM
Nov 2013

I missed it the first time around and am catching it occasionally on antenna TV - it is a true gem

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
34. Ted just failed the warm up quiz for winning the GOP nomination. If you kill Obamacare,
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:50 AM
Nov 2013

what's your plan for the 10s of million that will be stranded with no healthcare insurance? Just leave them flopping at the local ERs?

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
40. DAMN!!!!! that wasn't even a hard hitting interview.Hillary would MASSACRE!! this boy in a debate
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:22 AM
Nov 2013

I also love Cents explanation on the republicans idea of buying insurance accross state lines.

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