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dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)
and all the things I've learned in my wine club, going on wine tours, spending waaaaay too much time in Napa and Tuscany the thing that I've been consistently told by wine experts is at the end of the day PRICE DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT. You know what a "good" wine is??? ONE THAT YOU LIKE!!
My go-to wine, which I was introduced to at a blind tasting and which was overwhelming chosen as THE BEST pinot noir by all present this one particular evening, is an $8 bottle from Australia. When my wine buddies (the snobby kinds) come over for dinner or cocktails, I decant it so they can't see the label. And everyone raves about it--which makes it all the more brilliant when I tell them what it is.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I love Pinot Noir too and I've had some really great Australian wines.
Can you share specifically what the $8 bottle is?
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I generally speaking don't like New World wines (i gravitate toward the taste of French, Italian and Portuguese) but its really good, and since Pinot pairs so well with so many different foods its on my table more often than not.
Beware though, I've tried a few other wines from LP and they weren't so good. The pinot grapes do well in that climate, so they've produced something really good there.
AAO
(3,300 posts)What year are you drinking now?
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)the 2006 sucked but its been fairly consistent. Its a little jammier than most pinots; you'll get a nose full of fruit, is strongly strawberry on the palate, then finishes in strawberry, cherry and vanilla. I like my pinots spicer, but as I say, this is my go-to "can't offend anyone" and certainly doesn't break the bank. Its not a wine you'd cellar. I'm drinking a 2011 now.
AAO
(3,300 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Why don't they have a wine toasting smilie??
AAO
(3,300 posts)They do have an "after drinking LOTS of wine" smiley ==>
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Pinots are among my favorites (being from Orgegon and all).
It really is about trying many types and finding the ones you love.
My go to wine for drinking on our own with meals is about $8 a bottle--14 Hands red blend called Hot to Trot.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Where is it from?
I think I alienated the entire City of Portland when I was spending a lot of time there in the last 2 years for business; I'd work in my hotel room and instead of ordering room service I'd walk to Trader Joes and get a salad and a bottle of French Pinot. After a few days of this the wine guy came up to me and said "you're in Oregon and you're drinking FRENCH pinot??" He was good natured about it, but he and his co-workers ribbed me about it all the time.
I've been drinking Apothic (a red blend but you probably know that!) this past week with meals. I've been on a total Cote du Rhone thing lately so I just wanted something a little different. I do love Cote du Rhone
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)French have been creating great things from Pinot grapes for centuries.
14 Hands is from Eastern Washington. Climate is different than Portland are so they do a lot of Cabs, Syrahs and the like.
TlalocW
(15,675 posts)God, I really detest wine snobs. I know absolutely nothing about wine - never had it, never will. I've never seen so much time and effort go toward being pretentious. Oh, you have this color wine with this type of food, and you have to let it breathe, and it has to be served in this kind of glass. If I ever had the opportunity to host a dinner party, I would do my damnest to find a bottle of Andre the Giant Wine or a bottle of KMarto. Don't like it? I've got some Pepsi in the fridge. People are starving in Africa - eat your goddamn filet mignon without Cabernet Sauvignon, you hoity-toity bastards.
I feel better now.
TlalocW
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)It's just being interested in what variety of tastes can spring forth from humble grapes and a variety of viticulture.
Try having a full bodied red wine with a plate of shell fish and I guarantee you'll wish you had a crisp white wine instead.
Same types of rules hold for various beer types pairing better with certain types of foods.
It's about maximizing the eating/drinking experience. And making sure you're not dining with snobs of any type is key to that!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I mean, look, it's cool if people appreciate good wine. But don't be a dick about it.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)The thing about wine snobs is, when it comes right down to it, nearly all the shit they're spewing is OPINION. All tastes are not the same, people don't experience notes the same way and as I've seen time and again, most of them couldn't identify the grapes in a blend to save their lives. "Good" wine is whatever you like!!!!
But you know what? Over the years I've noticed more people drinking wine that couldn't give a fiddler's fart about what the "rating" is and that's encouraging
I think the reason US wine consumption has gone so high up is because people are unwilling to be intimidated by the so-called experts.