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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:14 AM Feb 2014

Police Shoot Eighty Year Old Man In His Bed - Do Not Find Drugs

The police officer that admitted to the shooting first said he had issued a warning to the 80 year old man to drop his gun, but the taped recording of the event reveals the command to drop the gun came after the elderly man had been killed.

The warrant issued for the property had to do with an "expert witness" testifying to a smell of chemicals, and the warrant was actually to enable police to search for a meth lab.

But all was not lost. Two straggly immature pot plants were being grown by one of the residents, on the property and police were able to seize those plants after their cold blooded killing of the elderly man.

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Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
1. No telling what carnage might have occurred had they not found those plants
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:37 AM
Feb 2014

I think I read somewhere else where other cops had already searched the property several times and found nothing.

Sounds like someone forgot to stuff a dime bag in his PJs.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
5. Police state going after low income and minority citizens..
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:29 AM
Feb 2014

You can tell the town council can't put a finger on this unit, and then the Sheriff resigns…

Hmmm…. Yeah…

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
6. Cue the badge sniffers in 5...4...3...2...1...saying it's only the bad ones
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:36 AM
Feb 2014

And not to judge cops because then you're a racist, intolerant asshole that stereotypes an entire group!

After all, being a cop is a tough job and we don't know anything about it.

Besides, the old man asked for it because being poor is criminal offense punishable by extrajudicial execution.

marble falls

(56,987 posts)
7. Yep. and they'll come up with a cop delivering a gallon of milk or playing catch with a kid ....
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:41 AM
Feb 2014

and use that to whitewash the general increase yearly of cop violence and murder.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
9. It's something like this that forces me to say out loud, what I really think about the police...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:02 AM
Feb 2014

That my own innate sense of self-preservation is quite compelling enough for me to regard the police as nothing more than a gang of violent and self-entitled bullies who are so cowardly that, if they'd use deadly force at the drop of a hat on a five pound dog, my own safety is at risk anytime they're within eyesight. The first rule would be to automatically regard them as unrepentant liars and completely untrustworthy, only because it's quite clear that unless there's compelling video and audio evidence available to me, they'd try to get away with anything and most probably would.

That is, unless they could prove themselves otherwise.

But most of all, I should have absolutely nothing to do with them, unless it's under the most direst of circumstances. And even then, I don't want anything to do with them.

To anyone who would respond with something like, "Just wait until you're in trouble and needed help and see if you'll feel the same way about the police then," my response is this: The police are not my friends, they have never been my friends, and as a Black man living in America, I seriously doubt if any of them ever want to be my friend. These are people who are immersed in the worst of human nature, day in and day out, and most of them have their own humanity ruined by that experience. So no, I don't want to invite any armed, arrogant and potentially violent person into my own life.

My belief is that any cop's first instinct is to come up with some half-assed reason (or no reason at all) to either beat the shit out of you over and/or find something to arrest you for, as simply the next stage after their penchant for arbitrary harassment. I'm absolutely certain that many a cop regard that sort of behavior as a sport that they are entitled to enjoy.

You have no right, including the right to your own life, that no cop is bound to respect, under just about any circumstance that they deem available.

Again, that's why I want nothing to do with cops… Ever. I care way more about myself than they'd ever would.

SamKnause

(13,087 posts)
14. This 60 year old white female
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:40 PM
Feb 2014

is in 100% agreement with you.

I keep trying to warn my family about the militarization of the cops.

I keep telling them about all the SWAT raids gone wrong.

I keep telling them about all the murders they have committed without any consequences whatsoever.

I can not imagine what it is like for you being a black man.

Please know all white people do not fear you, or hate you.

I would proudly stand beside you and fight for your rights.

We are equals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
16. These days the only
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:24 PM
Feb 2014

"good" thing that is happening is that it is almost as likely for an older white person to be killed by the police as an older African American.

I remember a long time ago, circa 1969, while taking a poetry class by Gene Wildman, we had to read a Surrealist Manifesto. In those pages, one of the authors of the book stated that in the next fifty years, the artists and the drop outs would be as "exterminated" as the Plains Indians.

And no one in our nation is really safe from a SWAT raid. The police use google maps to get them to their destination, and in many places those maps are one or two households off in terms of correct destination.





 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Excellent post and I agree with you that you must always be wary of police.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:40 AM
Feb 2014

When a cop says, 'I just need you to step out of your car for a minute' that really means 'I need to restrain you'. When a cop says, 'there is an odor in your car, smells like marijuana' that really means 'I'm going to search your car top to bottom until I find drugs'. When a cop handcuffs you and sits you down on the curb, you are NOT under arrest - just being restrained for the cops safety. We are docile sheep, obedient to the state to a T.

NOW when a swat team breaks down your door (mistakenly thinking it is a crack house, which is actually across the street) kills both your dogs on site, destroys the house looking for drugs and basically shouts that you will die if you don't tell them where the drugs are, well you are FUCKED. Even long afterward, just because cops are SO never wrong they get resentful AT YOU when they make mistakes!

One thing to always know about cops, they are never your friend and ALWAYS looking for a way to find you guilty of something they can arrest you for. It is their SOP. It is their bread and butter.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
18. Thank you, Mr Scorpio. I feel almost exactly the same way and I'm a
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:59 AM
Feb 2014

white female. I've seen too much gratuitous harassment of my (white) teenage son to think otherwise. Black parents must have their hearts in their throats every time they send their kids out the door.

My only response to the police is to shut up and call a lawyer.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
11. Humans and animals both fear the pigs! Google: Cop shoots squirrel
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

Totalitarian jackbooted lying pigs!

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