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Donald Rumsfeld: 'A Trained Ape' Would Be Better At Foreign Policy Than Obama
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MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)To think they ran stuff... yikes.
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)They're going to run it again. For all of the progressives on this board who are "angry" with the President, because he isn't liberal enough... for all of the liberals who come here to bash the President, for all of them who will sit home in 2014 as the pawns of the koch suckers... the repugs are coming again and they're coming for you.
rock
(13,218 posts)(and out party) and still vote for them. Voting for the repiggies is like setting fire to this country!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)It's the more moderate or "uncommitted" folks who stay home or move to the right, and they do this because they don't feel that Democrats are fighting for them.
Democrats need to embrace Liberal values, not kick them to the curb, to increase our voting numbers. We need FDR/Warren, not Clinton/Obama/WallStreet.
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)but she says she isn't running. And would never win the nomination if she did.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Why is that different?
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)But she has a massive ground game in Iowa already, so go figure...
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If he had a strong, liberal agenda all the way around, he would have more support and stir up more enthusiasm. His presidency has been far to cautious. What happened to the campaign to raise the minimum wage for example? Was that just for show?
Don't shoot the DU messengers.
We on DU don't set policy goals. The president does. If he is doing his job, he will win the election. If he is inspiring voters, they will come out even in off-year elections. Don't blame those who see the inadequacies of the Obama administration. Blame the inadequacies.
Why did Obama appoint Tim Geithner and the Larry Summers crowd to high places in his first term? And why are so many clueless conservative Democrats in his current cabinet? Those are the questions that should be asked.
Don't shoot the DU messengers.
the_working_poor
(34 posts)I don't know why people keep thinking he is.
HE IS NOT!
he's a RAYGUN DEMOCRAT, he has said as much!
He's a pragmatic conservative at the very best.
I wish people would open their ears and pay attention.
He's a corporatist, like Hillary.
they aren't bad people but for the love of GOD people PLEASE stop thinking they are like us!
they aren't.
We need real liberals and ACTUAL moderates, like grayson and warren!
Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)Unfortunately, most people tend to judge politicians not by the content of their character, but by the color of their political ideology.
xocet
(3,871 posts)Prosecute Bush et al.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)liberals are not going to stay home. The very fact that they speak out on issues shows they have more spirit than the Third Wayers, that would welcome Christie if he would switch parties. Seems to me like posts like this are aimed at disruption and division. Just MHO.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I see a lot of the "stayed home" have removed themselves from both parties. The impoverished who are marketed to stay home from the polls
I suppose that's a Democratic tactic, too?
Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)And they will keep on running and winning until they are held accountable.
Of course, they, the criminals in both parties, know they will never be held accountable because of the substantially large right wing authoritarian idol worshiping base in both political parties, that equally vote against their own best interest.
In other words, fuck the Koch's, if your voting for a corporate con-artist that works for the CFR while hiding behind the social facades of democratic and republican ideologies, then the joke is on you, and you have been reduced to fighting over whether it's better to be hung with a blue rope or a red rope.
And if you think liberals are clueless as to what is going on, and need to wake up, guess what, the joke is on you again.
But enough of that! When it becomes obvious to you, like when it's way too late, that the government has totally morphed from a two party crooks and con-artist pretend democracy puppet show, to some far worse right wing extremist evil, and you want to know who the guilty is, just go take a close look into the mirror.
Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)And they ran / run things because money in government has trumped accountability.
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)Botany
(70,442 posts)"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east,
west, south and north somewhat." on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
Gary 50
(381 posts)How would an untrained ape describe an imaginary objects location? Well it's east, west, north and south of someplace. Thanks for the disinformation you lying lowlife piece of shit.
Botany
(70,442 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)calimary
(81,085 posts)It's in the area around his descending colon, and east, west, south and north somewhat.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)disgust. Same with his "known, unknown" stuff. Why is this man still given credence. Surely even Fox should be embarrassed. For him to have the nerve to criticize anyone is just indicative of the downfall of this country, sadly. For how many deaths is he responsible?
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)Maybe our current president respects foreign sovereignty.
How often is Obama just out and out appalled by the GOP's complete lack of diplomacy and statesmanship?
He never comes out with statements like, "A snake in the grass would be envious of Rumsfeld's greed, subterfuge and cruelty."
Maybe resorting to small-minded attacks, with racial/species undertones just isn't Obama's style.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)geretogo
(1,281 posts)calimary
(81,085 posts)Glad you're here! This bastard makes me boil! Arrogant schmuck! I saw that documentary about him - "The Unknown Knowns." NEVER have I heard such pretzel logic. Such convoluted gobbledygook. He can sure talk a polluted ocean-full. No wonder so many have been swayed. You get lost in the wild, roaming, twisty-turny wording that takes you absolutely nowhere. But it's a lot of fancy-sounding phrases and allegedly-profound NONSENSE. He could have been the Jabberwock. The chapter in "Alice in Wonderland" could have been "rummywocky." Schmuck.
Ironically, he's one of the very few in that den of PNAC iniquity who actually, astoundingly, DID wear his country's uniform. He actually did serve. HOWEVER, that was - for him - luckily-timed. He served in the military conveniently BETWEEN wars. I think it was between Korea and Vietnam that his tour of duty was. So yeah, he served, but he never saw combat. Never put his ass in harm's way. Never got his hands dirty. How nice for him. So he still never understood what war is. Never lost any comrades in the foxhole or the tank, never got shot at. Never faced what he sent thousands of our boys and girls, our sons and daughters, our most precious treasures, over to that hell hole to face. So he's still as much of a candy-ass and a fop and a pussy and a chickenhawk as any of 'em, in my opinion.
Pardon my coarse language. But considering the subject, I think he's earned it. AND worse!
geretogo
(1,281 posts)People better wake up and see these people for who they are ,---SOCIOPATHS--- . I am 66 and have been
watching and listening to these criminals for 34 years , since Reagen raised his right hand .
I remember life before Reagen and I've seen this country going more and more authoritarian , anti democratic ,
Theocratic , and Fascist . I think we are seeing the death of democratic government here .
Unless there is an up rising by the millions on the streets I see no hope .
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Oh and welcome to DU.
geretogo
(1,281 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)If you aren't deliberately pissing off the entire world, to drive defense sales, he sees it as a 'failure' of diplomacy.
Rumsfeld is a warmaker. He cannot recognize the efforts of, or purpose for peace. He cannot profit from it, therefore it is 'wrong' to him.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)needs to look in the mirror.
albino65
(484 posts)and thank him every day for not turning him and Cheney over to the Hague to be tried for war crimes.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)let all the made in America war criminals go because of their philosophical and psychological similarities?
albino65
(484 posts)I forgot what I was going to say...
Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)And I think your avoiding a premise that might cause you to suffer a little cognitive dissidence. Can't have that can we?
I also think you said what you wanted to say. So I guess that makes you clever!
byronius
(7,389 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)!!
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)And here Obama has the chance of a lifetime (to go to war with Russia) dropped into his lap, and he doesn't even talk about war.
Obama is countless times better in foreign policy than those hate-filled, callous fuqs.
90-percent
(6,828 posts)Here's one for your next sound bite, you treasonous sack of phlegm.
"A porch monkey come to life would do a better job on foreign policy than Obama."
Powerful, mean, stupid and committing crimes against humanity is the way you've gone through life, son.
Could we please eject this war criminal from polite society?
-90% Jimmy
kairos12
(12,841 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)classykaren
(769 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Jeb was the one the family trained.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Since he got fired for incompetence, that must mean that he is not as well trained as a monkey.
Rummy need to go back to potty training..
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Rumsfeld = evil POS
trusty elf
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nakocal
(544 posts)So not only is donald rumsfeld and ignorant money-grubbing anti-American but he is also a racist.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Could replace the Emperor's face with his, and I bet it would fit... or be fitting!
rocktivity
(44,571 posts)HE tried it with an UNtrained ape.
rocktivity
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Because the reality of just how much they sucked at foreign relations just doesn't sink in.
progree
(10,889 posts)"trained" implies he was capable of learning
Cha
(296,780 posts)trained him? There's goes that fucking theory.
He freaking stepped into It!
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)the Smirking Chimp, right?
demwing
(16,916 posts)Is like asking Rainman if we should buy underwear from Kmart.