Armed Bundy Ranch Militia Member Blocks CBS News Crew From Accessing Public Road

[951-Riverside]

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Mooch Militia Member: Turn it off
Cameraman: It's a public road
Mooch Militia Member: I don't care what you're on

[geretogo]

1. We subdued these people in 1864 ; it looks like we have to do it again.

[randys1]

54. Yep, these militia terrorists must be arrested

it is infuriating that they are still freely roaming the area with guns and it makes me so angry i cant see straight

[geretogo]

59. I believe a day of reckoning is coming .

[Sunlei]

79. Bundy militia-men want to play the 'Guard' vs our basic right of "freedom of the press"

One would think a 'real militia' would want press coverage of their issue. Would embrace Americans most basic freedom rights, like 'Freedom of the Press'.

[dotymed]

80. Especially since the brutal way

that LEO's "dispatched" non- gun bearing Occupy, non-violent protestors.
IMO, if Occupy protestors were "bearing arms", they would have been left alone.
What does that say about America and its cowardly (unless you are unarmed) LEO's?

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. Long past time the police there either start doing their jobs

or losing them for refusing to do them. Call on the national guard or the military if you need to, but quit simply ignoring the illegal acts of the wannabe Somali warlords of the American west.

[PotatoChip]

5. I agree.

Why is nothing being done? They have no right to stop people from using a public road.

[2naSalit]

10. Perhaps

giving them all the rope to hang them all with? Something's coming down the pike and I hope soon.

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. Absolutely ...

did you catch the Sheriff's (?) statement that they have/are gathering intelligence on these guys and that they will be held to account?

Remembers me of the Two Bulls story told be the veteran cop to the anxious rookie in the 1990s movie Colors:

"Hey Pop ... let's run down this hill and F@#% a couple of those cows?"

"Nah Kid ... Let's walk down and F@#% them all!"

I realize that everyone is concerned about the weak appearance of the Federal Government; but waiting and arresting or, should they resist, putting them all down with force, will put an end to this misadventure and would go along way to dissuading all but the most loony of this guys. Arresting a few will only draw this out.

On a slightly different note ...

Has anyone seen what Bundy's net worth is? As another DUer speculated, once the fees and fines surpass his net-worth, Bundy can be evicted and hiss entire property can be seized. Perhaps, that's the delay?

[2naSalit]

58. His fines exceeding his wealth

with forfeiture as a result could be in the works, but you have to clear the area of the crazies, including his large brood of offspring, first.

And then you have that religious sect he claims as his family, that could get a little hinky at some point.

But I suspect that this will be dealt with much like OBL was, not exactly the same way but quietly.

[Stonepounder]

23. Wannabe Somali Warlords.... I like that !! n/t

[BanzaiBonnie]

44. Erich Bloodaxe BSN, I hope you don't mind, but imma gonna start using that term

The Militia Moochers are just wanna be Somali Warlords. Ain't it the truth.

And they will all be held to account. They are known and will be held to the law.

If they don't like the laws, then they can work to change them. But for holding weapons on law enforcement, they will answer. And Bundy will lose his whole ranch because he's a terrorist.

[jwirr]

25. It would be nice if there was some way to subdue them by using something that would put them to

sleep and they would wake up in jail. That would deny them the confrontation they want and would solve our problem with them.

[OilemFirchen]

57. Nickelbackfest! (n/t)

[Stryst]

3. Is it to early

...to start throwing "treason" around?

[2naSalit]

11. Or INSURRECTION? n/t

[jmowreader]

71. Sedition will do

[chillfactor]

4. what a jackass that guy is....

since when does he think HE can block a public road?

The crew should have rolled right over him and gone on their way.....this is getting so ridiculous already and no one is dong anything about it...........

[R B Garr]

8. Exactly! Just keep driving through. Maybe wave politely, but don't even stop to engage

him. Just keep going. If he uses his body as a road block, go back and get a 4-wheel drive and go on the shoulder around him. Keep driving! This is insane. Although I think the news crews want to engage the Jackass as part of their story.

They need to subdue this madness pretty soon. Can you imagine what would happen if city dwellers used armed civilians to keep people out of their neighborhoods. LEO would be there pronto with paddy wagons loading people up, no questions asked.

[2naSalit]

12. with the police thugs nowadays

they would be there with their newly issued war tanks and simply blow them all away.

[1StrongBlackMan]

38. And when that guy shots you ...

for running his unlawful check point, will L/E's reaction make you any less dead?

[negoldie]

75. Same idea

I have a similar idea. TV guys/gals packing and standing their ground would likely bring the Sheriff and State Police....leading to the National Guard......and all hell breaking loose. I think the Feds are going to let them implode from within, sparing the children.....we hope!

[heaven05]

6. this is a 'patriot'......

taking back his country. Can't you understand that black who lives in that white house at 1600 Pennsylvania ave took their country from them. THEY WANT IT BACK, by any means necessary. gun nut.

[1StrongBlackMan]

40. Yep ...

and these "constitutional scholars" apparently believe that the AG can authorize drone strikes!

[HooptieWagon]

47. I believe he can.

Some of the drone programs are conducted by civilian contractors under direction of the CIA or DoD. There is nothing to prevent the civilian contractors from conducting operations under the direction of the FBI or BATF. All Holder has to do is pick up the phone.

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. Neither the CIA nor the DoD ...

are u8nder the direction of the AG ... Also, neither organization can operate on US soil.

[HooptieWagon]

55. Correct. Which is why Holder would use FBI and BATF

in an oversight role of civilian contractors if drones are used. This I clearly stated in the post you were responding to.

[1StrongBlackMan]

62. US policy has the Pentagon with drone authority ...

no one else.

[HooptieWagon]

63. Wrong! Border Patrol using them.

Some local LE using them. It was discussed using drones at the GOP Convention in 2012. Decision was not to, but legality wasn't in question. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if DEA, ICE, and EPA were using them.
The DOD cant use them domestically (Posse Comitatus), but there is no legal prohibition of their use by other govt agencies.

[1StrongBlackMan]

64. I should have said "weaponized drones." eom

[HooptieWagon]

65. And the FBI, BATF are allowed to use weapons.

Including automatic rifles, grenade launchers, and armored vehicles. There is no legal argument prohibiting them from also arming drones. Only restriction is FAA approval required to fly them. In the desert, over the Bundy Ranch, thats a certain rubber-stamp.

[1StrongBlackMan]

66. Okay ...

speculation argued as fact ... the BATF and DHS has attached a protocol with respect to domestic drone usage; it uses a smaller, different model of drone (i.e., 55lb and not the Predator) and explicitly considered and excluded weaponization.

But yeah, the big bad government COULD use weaponized Predators ... but then, they COULD use tactical nuclear weaponry or a EMPs (also, talked about by these militia clowns).

[Ned Flanders]

69. Military Operating Areas

I don't know about that area, but Nevada has a lot of Military Operating Areas, where they fly all kinds of interesting aircraft. Camping in some parts of the desert can include a short but daily airshow. But I digress.

It seems like anywhere there's a MOA, they could fly an armed drone. That opens up a lot of terrain to them in the west.

[Ned Flanders]

68. I can't find any links to it now, but...

I recall Mayor Giuliani (I think it was him) boasting or joking about the NYPD having an armed drone. Anyone else remember that? May be just urban legend....

[1StrongBlackMan]

70. It's probably not an urban legend ...

as much as a wet dream.

[Sunlei]

78. The local police here in Texas use drones too. They just crashed a 250k? drone in some lake.

I'll have to google the news story. They crashed the drone in some big lake and haven't found it yet.

All that state/local? money to fly drones to peer into peoples yards and inside homes with a lot of that technology these expensive drones have.

[Leontius]

49. Maybe not drone strikes but he can authorize your "disappearance".

[1StrongBlackMan]

51. Yeah ...

It's called an "Arrest", or a "police state paranoid delusion." Take your pick.

[The CCC]

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It wasn't that many years ago that when a town barricaded itself against an approaching army. That army would lay siege to that town. Nothing got in and nothing got out until surrender or death by starvation.

[HooptieWagon]

9. exactly.

Let them run low on food and water, swelter in the heat, fight among themselves. Soon enough they'll lay down their weapons and come crawling out on their hands and knees. A whimpering meek surrender will send a message to the other moron militias.

[KansDem]

15. "...come crawling out on their hands and knees."

If past experience is any indication, won't they send out their womenfolk on their hands and knees first? Doing so might result in some workable propaganda for the militiamen.

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Nope ...

A whimpering meek surrender will send a message to the other moron militias.

The other moron militias will only see the surrendering group as having inadequate command and control structure with faulty tactical operational strategies.

IOWs, they failed because "they were weak and stupid. My band of committed patriots (with small arms) would'a beat back the Feds cuz I be smart."

[Paladin]

13. Fascist thugs, playing soldier games. Enough. (nt)

[SoapBox]

22. Ditto.

Be afraid America...these are the homegrown Tea Terrorists.

[Major Nikon]

14. You can see the whole video here:

There's lots of other interesting information in the story. Evidently the BLM is going to take further action at some point, but may wait til the heat drives off the morans. Those who pointed guns at the cops will face further action according to sheriff.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25396688/i-team-police-say-bundy-ranch-protesters-not-off-the-hook

[deutsey]

26. Appalling n/t

[bvar22]

16. I hope that the authorities are taking their time to ID all these assholes,

document their crimes,
and then arrest them in their homes at a later date without a shoot out.

I would like to know WHO is funding them.
THAT is who I want to see doing the Perp Walk.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

18. I'm sure a LOT of these guys have outstanding warrants.

[Paladin]

29. I'm betting they have more warrants than steady jobs. (nt)

[1StrongBlackMan]

42. And more VA/SS checks than warrants. eom.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

60. There's plenty of overlap.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. Great way to get the entire media to come back.

[KansDem]

19. So the 3M guy doesn't like having a camera pointed at him?

How about an AK-47?

[d06204]

33. This Sh*t ain't funny. It is sad and scary

This will end badly. These militia groups will get what they desire, a shooting war, and they will lose and lose badly. Charges of treason and sedition should be filed against the survivors including those who aided and abetted.

[Major Nikon]

48. According to the sheriff, this genius is going to get his due

They are currently working to identify the morans that pointed guns at the cops. Mr photogenic's shit is going to be pretty weak very soon.

[McChengski]

20. Now Thats Freedom!

I find this groups notion of freedom to be a bit scary....

[EC]

21. Reminds me of Crimea.

Just take over a piece of land by force.

[mountain grammy]

24. Send in the drones and watch them run.. These people are idiots, deport them to their caves.

[dotymed]

81. I agree grammy

but these idiots are getting a lot of press, not being brutalized by cops (yet) and many other things that we didn't accomplish with #Occupy.
Maybe if we had legally armed (gun permits) Progressive protestors (with definite goals..ie. net neutrality, greatly increased minimum wage, wealth equality, legislating money out of politics, etc.) who kept their weapons holstered but refused to be brutalized (not by brandishing their weapons, IMO the greatly increased press coverage would prevent a lot of the police brutality), we could get much more accomplished than we did with the original #Occupy protests.
IDK, I see (on every channel) these tea baggers getting free publicity for their idiotic "cause" (keeping Koch-like assholes free from government regulation) and I wonder how we Progressives could get this exposure legally.
Polling shows that the majority of Americans are Progressive in their desires, hopefully IF we could get this kind of coverage legally without being beaten and arrested (effective dissuasion by TPTB) we may be able to get like-minded Americans to Unite and work
together to bring Democracy to America.

[Botany]

27. This man needs to be arrested ASAP

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What he did there is illegal and he has zero authority to control traffic on a public road.

It is time for the cops to do their jobs and to stop this crazy crap.

[Champion Jack]

28. There is a quick solution for these "patriots" and their inflated sense of power...

Air strike

[GeorgeGist]

30. Send them to Gitmo.

[Hoyt]

31. This is what we get when it's too easy for white/right wing bigots to get and carry guns.

These losers would be hiding in a hole with a confederate flag if they didn't have gunz to embolden them.

[giftedgirl77]

32. Turn his ass into a speedbump.

[4Q2u2]

34. It is Okay

They put a toll up, so now they are in compliance with White House Highway Plan.

[Kelselsius]

35. One thing you must remember. They want people to die

These Militia psychopaths want the shooting to start. They want to put their women and children in front to be shot by the "Gov'ment Jackbooted Thugs" then tell the world that this shows how evil the federal government is. Then they can start shooting back and claim they have the higher moral ground.
They want blood. They want anarchy and carnage. Nothing less will satisfy their lust for violence.

[MisterP]

72. there was a good piece on the Waco sympathizers' convention/gun show

I think by Susan Faludi
you're exactly right, especially on their use of women and children (like in the Quiverfull)
http://www.cracked.com/article_21061_5-insane-lessons-from-my-christian-fundamentalist-childhood.html
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/

[eilen]

37. There is now some infighting between "militia" groups

Oath-Keepers-Bundy-Militia
At timestamp 14:32 Stewart Rhodes tells that the Bundy Militia physically assaulted two of the Oath Keepers.

I really think that Quentin Tarantino should make this movie-- as a satire of course. Have them end up eaten by Mexican vampires or something.

[meanit]

46. These guys are frigging delusional.

They stomp around threatening "to draw" on each other, go to the "command post!" for information, man checkpoints, salute!, hup-two-three-four!....

They're like large, deranged children playing army with real guns.

[eilen]

67. Just reading the comments to that Kos diary

I was laughing my ass off.

[tularetom]

39. When somebody is prevented from getting emergency medical attention

because of these asshats playing soldier, they may find themselves facing at least manslaughter charges. Not to mention civil lawsuits which will result in the loss of their arsenals.

[meanit]

43. These militia assholes have cornered themselves.

They've had their 15 minutes of fame and people are losing interest. Even Fox Propaganda Service has abandoned them, thanks to Bundy's racist spiel.
If these moron wannabes keep harassing citizens on public roads, the police will be forced to step in. If one of them decides that they want to pop-off a few rounds at law enforcement, then the big-bad gubment oppressors will be back, this time with a mandate to protect the public from these rouges.

[Gothmog]

45. These idiots need to be put in jail

This militia group is nuts and needs to be put in jail

[meanit]

56. The authorities have plenty of time

to wait these crackpots out. They also have long memories when it comes to prosecuting too.

Sooner or later Bundy will get sick of feeding and cleaning up after these assholes, or their financiers will leave them high and dry because they have no more use for them. And if they fire on someone, the authorities will have every right to go in and neutralize the threat to the public. If the provoke a siege, they will be outlasted.

The smart thing to do would be to pack up, leave and enjoy the adoration of their idiotic and toothless supporters.

[uhnope]

52. Full video here

http://www.8newsnow.com/category/28259/8-news-now-video

It makes clear the authorities plan to prosecute these fools

[Ilsa]

53. He's a terrorist. Drop him into GITMO.

Take his assets. Deport his family to Yemen.

[randr]

61. An obviously armed man threatens free movement on a public thoroughfare

Time to drop them. Give them a dose of the same medicine they are so willing to dish out.
It is disgusting that the local law enforcement does not clear these vigilantes out of their county.

[Amonester]

73. If they were members of OWS, they would have been pepper-sprayed long

ago...

[951-Riverside]

74. Some would have been shot in the face with beanbag guns like Scott Olsen was

Oakland agreed to pay an Iraq War veteran $4.5 million to settle a federal lawsuit he filed after a city police officer shot him in the head with a beanbag during an Occupy protest, nearly killing him and leaving him with permanent brain damage, attorneys said Friday.

Scott Olsen, 26, was among more than 1,000 demonstrators protesting the police clearing of an Occupy Oakland encampment outside City Hall when he was struck by the beanbag on Oct. 25, 2011. Widely viewed images of him falling in the street and being carried away while bloodied ignited outrage and sparked further protests.

The payout is the latest in a series of settlements by the city involving mass protests. It comes as Oakland police continue to grapple with how to balance the free-speech rights of activists with a desire to maintain order amid large, often unruly crowds.

At a news conference Friday not far from where he was injured at 14th Street and Broadway, Olsen said he never expected to return from service as a Marine in the Middle East, only to be injured by police in downtown Oakland.

"I guess I thought that I wasn't in Iraq anymore, you know, I'd be more or less safe," Olsen said. "I wasn't going to get shot. I wasn't going to be attacked. Oakland police proved me wrong in that, and it makes me feel less safe in general, especially around people who are supposed to be protecting you."

Olsen said he is still being treated for his head injury. "I didn't win part of my brain back that's dead," he said. "It's hard. It was a hard recovery process."

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/4-5M-settlement-for-Oakland-protester-wounded-by-5337743.php

[santroy79]

76. This is a joke

we let these bullies have their way. They should be arrested and if they dont go quietly then use force like they would do on anyone else. Im sure if the swat team showed up and put guns in this guys face he would surrender. Then arrest him. I could care less if bullets fly as long as the law isnt getting hurt.

[Sunlei]

77. Hasn't this fella heard about "Freedom of the Press"? one of those rights of 'we the people' ?

Last many years it is the BLM blocking 'the press' from public land access & hating on cameras that just want to observe OUR Gov. at work.
CBS knows about all the Federal court cases, many still pending BLM vs our basic right for "freedom of the press".


Here is how the BLM 'blocks' one journalist, Laura Leigh who has spent a lifetime trying to document 'Our DOI/BLM 'management' of our public lands. CBS reporter in this video was also blocked access.

Last many years it has been the BLM blocking 'the press' from public land access & observation of our Gov.
Here are just a few clips of how journalists are blocked access of observation on our public lands in Nevada.