'Phosphorus' reports: Ukraine military 'dropped incendiary bombs' on Slavyansk

Addressing the message, this is a weapon known to be possessed by the Ukrainian army of militia and irregulars.

No one should dismiss accusations of war crimes so dismissively.

Propaganda is in in eyes and beliefs of the beholder, didn't the I/P propaganda war teach us nothing?

Do the propaganda wars on domestic turf not turn the trick?

The military was warned by America,must yesterday, not to use heavy artillery lobbed into urban areas....what might they have been lobbing is a legitimate issue.

, but only so because unfortunately the western media is leaving out or not being allowed to bear less convenient stories.

The alternative is ignorance.

A case as good as any of the facts coming out of the west has been made including video's of the spent rockets, eyewitness reports, and video. It is up to the world to investigate further. If the west purpously ignores it tends to give credence to the reports and complaints of humanitarian issues being geo-politisized.

That is simply liberal thoughts, not propaganda or "putin loving"

Respectfully

There many links about Ukraine using white phosphorus if you Google...but, if even HRW can't make up its mind about the reports from both Russia and Ukraine sources as to whether it was used or not...then we should keep our minds open.

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Dispatches: White Phosphorus, White Lies, or What?
June 20, 2014


http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/20/dispatches-white-phosphorus-white-lies-or-what

After analyzing the LifeNews video clip, Human Rights Watch arms researchers concluded that it didn’t show a white phosphorous – or an incendiary weapon – attack. What the video actually appears to show is an illuminant or a pyrotechnic. First, the intensity of the burning and the amount of smoke it generated aren’t consistent with white phosphorus. Second, the substance falling from the sky in the video has a haphazard pattern, unlike an incendiary weapon. Third, there is no flash of an explosive bursting charge, no instantaneous uniform ignition of the substance, both characteristic of white phosphorus munitions. Whatever is falling from the sky is breaking apart in a non-uniform manner, more akin to crumbling or disintegrating – incendiary weapons don’t do this.

The accusations around the claims are still flying. Ukrainian media outlets have published an apology written by two journalists for Zvezda, the Russian Ministry of Defense media outlet, who said they falsely reported on the use of white phosphorous (among other things) in Semyonovka. However, the circumstances under which the letter was written are still unclear. Both journalists had been detained by Ukrainian security services, and Ukrainian Channel 5 aired a video of one of the two journalists stating that his editors at Zvezda said he had to do the story. Again, this powerful claim is clouded by the fact that it was made while the journalist was in Ukrainian custody. The reporter’s black eye itself is a serious cause of concern.

This certainly wouldn’t be the first time that Russian state media has manufactured montages about eastern Ukraine, twisted the truth, or outright misstated facts. It’s difficult to avoid the impression that aside from mobilizing public outrage in Russia about Ukraine, these manipulations aim to distract and exhaust the experts whose job it is to sift between fact and fiction. It’s like an incendiary weapon that explodes, leaving in its wake anger and disorientation until the media cycle moves on. The Ukrainian media is also no stranger to this tactic.


http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/20/dispatches-white-phosphorus-white-lies-or-what

And applies to both sides...but we believe what our sides says and dismiss the rest...

like this. Shocking, I tell you.