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Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
1. Now that Obama is a lame duck, he SHOULD be free to start the investigation into America
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:23 PM
Sep 2014

being lied into war. He won't because Wall Street still has him by the short hairs!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. He's just been a helpless pawn in all this.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:48 PM
Sep 2014


If it's not Wall Street, it's Republicans.

If it's not Republicans, it's conservadems.

If not conservadems, it's Lieberman.

If it's not Lieberman, it's all of Congress.

If it's not all of Congress, it's talk radio.

If it's not talk radio, it's the CIA, showing him a film of the Kennedy assassination, then asking, "Any questions?"

Guess Wall Street got to him very quickly too.

January 11, 2009, before his first inauguration.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
4. Wall Street hand picked him when he was in the Illinois congress. He has been their guy from the
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:52 PM
Sep 2014

beginning!
I appreciate and applaud Obama's social achievements, but he has always done Wall Street's bidding just like his predecessors.

Response to merrily (Reply #3)

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
2. Cheney's real role in the W. Bush administration:
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:41 PM
Sep 2014

Is GWB silent on politics today because of a real sense of his failures, or simply because he has as little interest in national and world politics as he did when POTUS? Cheney, however, leaves little doubt as to whose administration it really was during the "Bush II years." Most of his opposition in 2000 realized how adeptly he made himself the VP candidate, and his little respect for Dubya (Republican PTB expected he could take young George in charge; an ideal situation, since the Dick would never fly as a viable candidate to the great, unwashed public). The truly frightening thing about Cheney is his absolute conviction that his disastrous policies are always the right way to go, and how wrong everyone else is. He may have started out, and continues, as entirely self serving for the MIC and Halliburton, but I think it's become more: He's a major deposed, but tragically right historical figure. Given forums he no longer has a right to, he could highly influence a lot of his right wing political followers, who in turn will rile up their low information voters. This is all in his own mind, maybe, but still not something to be indulged.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Yep, Bush/Cheney were awful, for sure.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 03:06 PM
Sep 2014
Extraordinary rendition or irregular rendition is the apprehension and extrajudicial transfer of a person from one country to another.[1] During the United States war on terror, President Clinton initiated the program and, under the administration of President George W. Bush, the term became associated with US practices of abducting and transferring terrorism suspects to countries known to employ torture for the purpose of interrogation. The process has continued and expanded under the Barack Obama


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/us/bagrams-new-black-hole/


http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/fresh-call-end-harsh-detention-wikileaks-soldier-2011-03-24

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ASA11/006/2014/en/c628b1a4-821f-4168-a583-ac4a6159986e/asa110062014en.pdf

http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/press-releases/amnesty-international-calls-on-president-obama-stop-evading-accountability-for-potentially-unlawful




 

supercats

(429 posts)
9. Great Post Thom Hartmann!!
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 01:37 AM
Sep 2014

Everybody needs to see this. Also every democratic politician needs to scream this from the rafters whenever they get in front of a camera.

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