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EarlG

(21,945 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:37 AM Oct 2014

Pic Of The Moment: GOP State Sen. Says Being Christian In USA Is Like Being Jewish In Nazi Germany



Texas senator makes Holocaust comparison in speech


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Pic Of The Moment: GOP State Sen. Says Being Christian In USA Is Like Being Jewish In Nazi Germany (Original Post) EarlG Oct 2014 OP
Christains are in perpetual rage/victimhood mode. They believe it's either kill or be killed. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #1
And yet we're fighting ISIS for much the same reason. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #39
Not that I'm in favour of war, but ISIS genuinely is persecuting Christians nxylas Oct 2014 #78
It's because azureblue Oct 2014 #42
So true! The guy is JERK vlyons Oct 2014 #59
+1,000,000 SoapBox Oct 2014 #48
Fucken Idiot! Crap like this is what gives Christianity a bad rap. There are a lot of good RKP5637 Oct 2014 #2
"assholes like this think they represent them" FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #3
We do, but getting the media to cover that is an entirely different issue. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #7
And every comment after the article indicates just that. Contrary1 Oct 2014 #11
Because they present themselves as fighting for Truth, Justice, and the Ability To Make A Buck. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #19
But idiots like Perry make for so much more interesting copy. Brigid Oct 2014 #63
Thank you. FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #12
We've chosen to SHOW what Christians do, rather than engage in a shouting match. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #29
see Matthew azureblue Oct 2014 #43
The parable of the sheep and the goats. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #56
Yep, MSM is never interested in healing for a better society, but rather the outrageous to fatten RKP5637 Oct 2014 #15
It would! They are always so silent, I just don't get it. It's one thing to turn the other cheek RKP5637 Oct 2014 #10
This sort of crap does NOT represent my views nxylas Oct 2014 #76
Yeppers. Wait Wut Oct 2014 #8
Ssssshhh, Wait Wut. mac56 Oct 2014 #38
I thought Halloween Decorations were the signal! Amethyst Ring Oct 2014 #58
that would be under isis samsingh Oct 2014 #4
If these folks had brains they'd be dangerous .. nt TBF Oct 2014 #5
A Perpetual Motion Machine corkhead Oct 2014 #6
Yep, sadly, that's pretty much the bottom line of it all. The SOS keeps repeating over and over. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #13
Insane in the membrane. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #44
the choices are increasingly a boot on the throat vs. shoe on the throat MisterP Oct 2014 #16
In their mind it's a Birkenstock sandal on the throat. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #18
Or these! Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #41
Those boots weren't made for walkin'. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #71
That'll gin up the stoopids. Same state that brought us Loonie Goobert R (TX-01). wolfie001 Oct 2014 #9
Yep. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #73
Oh wow MynameisBlarney Oct 2014 #14
So I bet his "ULTIMATE SOLUTION" is to do it to the Liberals before they do it to them. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #17
Trying to rally the base Andy823 Oct 2014 #20
exactly eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #74
Remember also the "entitlement" concept that is conscript to the arrogance. eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #75
Answer: "No, it's not", but thank you State Sen. Perry, for your entry.... JHB Oct 2014 #21
OMFG. Yeah, bagger, it's EXACTLY like that. catbyte Oct 2014 #22
Answer: No. "I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." EEO Oct 2014 #23
this is an INSULT to holocaust victims noiretextatique Oct 2014 #24
Is he delusional or pandering or both? merrily Oct 2014 #25
Nope get the red out Oct 2014 #26
Insanity. JNelson6563 Oct 2014 #27
It is people like this who is destroying Christianity. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #28
100% agree geretogo Oct 2014 #47
These people pretend to be a lot of things. Using Jews and Nazis is an insult! santamargarita Oct 2014 #30
There are four problems with his statement jmowreader Oct 2014 #31
Charles Perry isn't related to Tricky Ricky, is he? Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #37
that was my first thought, as well. but, according to wiki, no. niyad Oct 2014 #67
There is no mention of Berlin oberliner Oct 2014 #62
If Nazi Germany had existed before Nazi Germany... enki23 Oct 2014 #32
I'll be the Paul Revere on this hibbing Oct 2014 #33
Paging George Santayana. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #34
That remark is pure, unadulterated EVIL. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #35
Read more from the Lubbock Avalanche Journal. TexasTowelie Oct 2014 #54
Fox news is responsible for turning what were once good people into victims randr Oct 2014 #36
than should be then? donheld Oct 2014 #40
Another Texas Republican idiot. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #45
The psychiatrists need to stop letting these mentally ill psychos out before they are cured . geretogo Oct 2014 #46
What an amazing display of stupidity and ignorance. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #49
For when a fail is so colossal that it distorts reality... Initech Oct 2014 #50
That took nerve or a whole lot of ignorance. Solly Mack Oct 2014 #51
Why are Rethugs always comparing themselves with the SummerSnow Oct 2014 #52
The report from the Lubbock Avalanche Journal is even more ridiculous. TexasTowelie Oct 2014 #53
christian fundamental fascism is a form of fascism not a form of christianity jonjensen Oct 2014 #55
Speaking as an Atheist, I've known some wonderful, Fun-to-be-around Christians. BlueJazz Oct 2014 #57
Guess what I just saw on TV? WhoIsNumberNone Oct 2014 #60
Sad commentary mikegibbo Oct 2014 #61
What is it with these guys and their need to trivialize what Nazi Germany was and wasn't?.... marble falls Oct 2014 #64
Doesn't he look like Jeb Bush, though? marble falls Oct 2014 #65
He'll probably be the 2016 GOP Presidential candidate. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #66
for those who would like to play with the waste of resources: niyad Oct 2014 #68
Conservatives love trivializing the Holocaust and insulting its victims Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2014 #69
There are no words for that level of abject stupidity. nt MADem Oct 2014 #70
You want to drop him down some portal into a real camp - get it now, buddy? toby jo Oct 2014 #72
The Holocaust is strictly off limits, except in this context by you EarlG and thanks for this. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #77
religion - LOL n/t KG Oct 2014 #79
Hmmm.... AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #80
Ahh, um, wait - let me think.... hmmmm...... NO! DUMBASS!! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #81
Texas Robert24 Oct 2014 #82
I usually just read and agree with the Pic Of The Moment. This time I had to say: ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #83
. tk2kewl Oct 2014 #84
He's a really special kind of stupid Bettie Oct 2014 #85
Oh the pure hardship and hell of being in the majority Zambero Oct 2014 #86
Unreal kwolf68 Oct 2014 #87

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
78. Not that I'm in favour of war, but ISIS genuinely is persecuting Christians
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:16 AM
Oct 2014

One of the religious right's complaints, and one that actually has some justification, is that people are not taking the persecution of Christians in the Middle East seriously. I think there's some truth in this, but I wonder if there is an element of the Boy who Cried Wolf at play here. People have become so used to hearing Christians scream about persecution every time a store clerk says "happy holidays" that when genuine persecution arrives, it barely registers in their consciousness, because they have learned to tune it out.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
42. It's because
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:10 PM
Oct 2014

of the methods the Church leaders use to keep their flock - fear, separation, and hate. As is taught today, the basic message of Christianity is: "something bad will happen to you after you die, and we have the only prevention. And if you don't believe as we do, then something bad will happen to you. And those people over there are out to get you." So the premise starts with fear of the unknown, and, to reinforce it, the Church leaders introduce persecution and sin to keep the flock scared, in line, and not asking too many questions. And those who ask too many questions get pitched out as heretics real quick. They need blind faith to make the machine work. What that becomes is blind rage and fear. And, I will add, this is polar opposite of what Jesus taught, but for sure, do not even say that to them.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
59. So true! The guy is JERK
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:27 PM
Oct 2014

and gives Christianity a bad name, not that the Fundies need much help in the "persecution complex" dept. Hey I'm glad that I'm a Buddhist! This man's comments are really quite vulgar.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
2. Fucken Idiot! Crap like this is what gives Christianity a bad rap. There are a lot of good
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:41 AM
Oct 2014

Christians and assholes like this think they represent them. This guys a diabolical ass. I'm not religious, but I recognize some good people are religious, but not like this damn fool.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
3. "assholes like this think they represent them"
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:47 AM
Oct 2014

It would help if the more sensible churches/followers could publicly proclaim that this sort of crap does NOT represent their views.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
7. We do, but getting the media to cover that is an entirely different issue.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:54 AM
Oct 2014

They always treat condemnation of dominionist theology, etc., by progressive Christians with a decided "ho hum" attitude. If they bother to cover it at all, it's usually on page 13 in section G.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
11. And every comment after the article indicates just that.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:03 PM
Oct 2014

Sadly, these idiots keep getting elected. One has to wonder why.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
12. Thank you.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:05 PM
Oct 2014

I've heard the same thing a few times. Sadly, not from any of my religious relatives (who could tell me directly any time they want).

I think it would be worthwhile for churches to organize some type of campaign to inform/remind the public of the Gospel quotes that fly in the face of all the hostility and selfishness that typify the current public face of their faith.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
29. We've chosen to SHOW what Christians do, rather than engage in a shouting match.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:04 PM
Oct 2014

Over the last ten years, we've transitioned from a traditional church into a 'New Testament church'. We still have services, Sunday School and the like, but we now also operate a soup kitchen, a food pantry, a homeless shelter and a low-income utility, medical and dental-assistance program.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
43. see Matthew
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:12 PM
Oct 2014

25: 33- 47. Not you, of course, but this guy, this fake Christian, hates to be told this....

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
15. Yep, MSM is never interested in healing for a better society, but rather the outrageous to fatten
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:12 PM
Oct 2014

their bottom line profits. ... hence, no interest in those progressive Christians trying to promote betterment for everyone.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
10. It would! They are always so silent, I just don't get it. It's one thing to turn the other cheek
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:02 PM
Oct 2014

and all that, but people like this are destroying their faith and so misrepresenting what many are like.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
8. Yeppers.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:01 PM
Oct 2014

The majority of my friends/family are Christians. They don't think like this.

So, yeah, to our Christian DUers, we aren't going to force you to take ownership of this twit. We know better. Most of us, anyway.

Now, can I get back to planning this years War on Christmas?

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
6. A Perpetual Motion Machine
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:53 AM
Oct 2014

Knuckle dragging dumbasses like this who hate government get elected and prove that "government doesn't work"

The average citizen who has the plutocratic boot of day to day life on their throats because "government doesn't work" are disgusted that we have knuckle dragging dumbasses in office like this and become disillusioned enough to disengage from the political process all together.

As a result, knuckle dragging dumbasses like this who hate government get re-elected prove that "government doesn't work"

Lather, rinse, repeat.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
13. Yep, sadly, that's pretty much the bottom line of it all. The SOS keeps repeating over and over. n/t
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:07 PM
Oct 2014

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
20. Trying to rally the base
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:41 PM
Oct 2014

Republicans need to get out their voters so they use things like this to rally those who are gullible enough to believe this crap.
As has been stated by others here, all christians are not the same, and the ones republicans want to reach are the fanatics, the ones who believe only republicans can stop all the "persecution" they "think" is being done to them.

Some high control religions use the same kind of tact is to keep their followers in line, and to convince them "they" are the ONLY true religion and if you leave their group, you are doomed.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
21. Answer: "No, it's not", but thank you State Sen. Perry, for your entry....
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:42 PM
Oct 2014

...in our bimonthly "Yes, there is such a thing as a stupid question, for instance..." contest.

catbyte

(34,374 posts)
22. OMFG. Yeah, bagger, it's EXACTLY like that.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:43 PM
Oct 2014

I know I shouldn't get pissed off at baggers who spew dumbass lies like this, but I just can't help it. They know what they're doing--riling up their bagger base--and it's beyond despicable. And if he isn't lying, then he needs a thorough mental health check.



get the red out

(13,461 posts)
26. Nope
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:00 PM
Oct 2014

It's like being a fucking NAZI in Nazi Germany, except for liberal Christians who are never given a voice.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. It is people like this who is destroying Christianity.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:03 PM
Oct 2014

It makes me wonder what is being said in churches which cause those professing to be Christians to hate others as we see here. I am a Christian and believe as Jesus taught, to love everybody, I do not feel the love when one speaks with hate.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
31. There are four problems with his statement
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:09 PM
Oct 2014

First, our government is not "perpetuating laws that lead citizens away from God."

Second, there was no concentration camp in Berlin. There is a jail called Plötzensee Prison that was used to execute Aryans who were sentenced to death by Roland Freisler's People's Court, which prosecuted dissidents. The "concentration camps" were far from population centers.

Third, no one was executed with "a bullet through the throat" - executions at Plötzensee were conducted either by guillotining or hanging - and no one was taken to an execution under guise of going to a medical examination. (That's what the Bush administration did to some of Saddam's underlings. Seriously.) Everyone who was executed at Plötzensee had been sentenced to death by a kangaroo court; they knew what was coming.

And finally, his numbers are only about 350 percent off: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plötzensee_Prison, the Nazis executed 2,891 people at the only place in Berlin where they did it. I've been to the Plötzensee Memorial. It's creepy as hell, but not quite as creepy as Republican State Senator Charles Perry of Texas. The shit the Nazis actually did was bad enough; no embellishment is necessary.

Ampersand Unicode

(503 posts)
37. Charles Perry isn't related to Tricky Ricky, is he?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:02 PM
Oct 2014


If so, it seems that the bad seed doesn't fall far from the tree.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
62. There is no mention of Berlin
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:00 PM
Oct 2014

I have no idea why that was added to the quote in the photo. It was not uttered and is not included in the linked article, even parenthetically.

enki23

(7,787 posts)
32. If Nazi Germany had existed before Nazi Germany...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:21 PM
Oct 2014

"Help, the Jewish minority is oppressing us Christians us just like these other Christians oppressed the Jews under the pretense that the Jewish minority was oppressing the Christians..."

hibbing

(10,097 posts)
33. I'll be the Paul Revere on this
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

Shouting warnings to every church I see every four blocks in my city.

Peace

randr

(12,411 posts)
36. Fox news is responsible for turning what were once good people into victims
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:01 PM
Oct 2014

You listen to the lies and paranoid nonsense of that network and sooner or later you fall prey to their ideology.
The Fox nation is a nation of sheep.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
49. What an amazing display of stupidity and ignorance.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:42 PM
Oct 2014

This is an example of Holocaust revisionism and minimization.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
52. Why are Rethugs always comparing themselves with the
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:15 PM
Oct 2014

victims of Nazi Germany? Im not Jewish and I am sick and tired of this crap. And by the way asshat if you think your "faith" in god is strong then nothing should lead you away from god.

 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
55. christian fundamental fascism is a form of fascism not a form of christianity
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:48 PM
Oct 2014

If christian fundamental fascists would stop shooting law enforcement officers they wouldn't have to worry so much!

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
57. Speaking as an Atheist, I've known some wonderful, Fun-to-be-around Christians.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:39 PM
Oct 2014

That piece of human garbage isn't one of them.

To even equate his "persecution" with the Jews during WWII is a slap in the face to every Jew that I've even known.


WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
60. Guess what I just saw on TV?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:02 PM
Oct 2014

An ad for the Left Behind movie. No, not the one with Kirk Cameron, this is a new one starring Nicholas Cage that's actually going to be showing in theaters. I've never seen so many big budget Christian movies coming out in such a short time frame. And all from liberal commie Hollywood.

If we're persecuting Christians in this country, we're not doing a very good job of it.



mikegibbo

(4 posts)
61. Sad commentary
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:55 PM
Oct 2014

If you are a true believer - no law will lead you away from God. What a load of crap! Nice hair!

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
64. What is it with these guys and their need to trivialize what Nazi Germany was and wasn't?....
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:45 PM
Oct 2014

Though I can definitely see that guy in a black leather trench coat, big trilbies and red armbands with that black device on it. Squint and see if you can't see it, too.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
66. He'll probably be the 2016 GOP Presidential candidate.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:54 PM
Oct 2014

Because this is the most whacked out shit I have ever heard from any Republican . . . so far.

I wonder if Santorum can top this?

Bet he can!!

niyad

(113,265 posts)
68. for those who would like to play with the waste of resources:
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:49 PM
Oct 2014

Representative Charles Perry
Address: 4216 102nd St, Lubbock, TX 79423
Phone 806) 783-9934

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
69. Conservatives love trivializing the Holocaust and insulting its victims
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:55 PM
Oct 2014

"I stubbed my toe. It's totally like being sent to the gas chamber!"

What a fucking asshole.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
80. Hmmm....
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 06:45 AM
Oct 2014

Are Christians being compelled against their will to wear symbols on their clothing to show who they are?

Are their places of worship being raided, vandalized, or burned?

Are their books being burned?

Are they being forced off of all media?

Are they being rounded up and sent away?

Are they free to trot off to their places of worship whenever they want?

I think the answers to all are pretty obvious. So, Senator, your comparison not only is a huge FAIL, it is a huge insult to those who DID suffer through Nazi Germany. So, please -- STFU.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
83. I usually just read and agree with the Pic Of The Moment. This time I had to say:
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:00 AM
Oct 2014

What the double-plus fuck???

SMH... these people are ate up with the stupid.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
86. Oh the pure hardship and hell of being in the majority
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:54 AM
Oct 2014

Especially when "persecutors" suggest that we should not be forcing religious beliefs onto other religions with fewer followers. No doubt European Jews had similar issues with the Nazis not wanting to go along with them. But wait a minute -- the Jews were not in the majority, as put-upon U.S. Christians are. Oops, might this be a seriously botched analogy on the part of this State Senator?



kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
87. Unreal
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014

THIS is the idiocy we're up against. WHAT LAWS are being passed 'against religion?'

I know, none...they are pissed that laws are NOT being passed to PROMOTE a (their) religion.

These people are the most dangerous out there, religious whackos.
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