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pathansen

(1,039 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 08:24 AM Dec 2014

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) pathansen Dec 2014 OP
Wow! Jacoby365 Dec 2014 #1
They were charged marym625 Dec 2014 #4
You know...... cynzke Dec 2014 #7
I'm against the death penalty. For these officers I would make an exception. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #2
No. General population in a federal prison. WhiteTara Dec 2014 #8
I understand what you are saying. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #9
Of course they do. WhiteTara Dec 2014 #11
Yep. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #12
I suspect those places LiberalElite Dec 2014 #19
That an interesting day. Not only this WhiteTara Dec 2014 #23
I remember this marym625 Dec 2014 #3
i can't even watch it. barbtries Dec 2014 #5
Watched a little damnedifIknow Dec 2014 #6
I don't remember hearing about this. So sad. I wish all the victims of police brutality would kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #10
Being white didn't help this poor victim. chervilant Dec 2014 #13
had to shut it off DemandsRedPill Dec 2014 #14
"until we take a good serious look at the government" Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #21
They yanked it from YouTube...no more sharing these heartless fucking pricks... BeatleBoot Dec 2014 #15
Then it should be returned to you tube and if the people who control you tube content ladjf Dec 2014 #17
What do you mean they yanked it from YouTube? Unknown Beatle Dec 2014 #25
I've seen a lot of terrible violence but this video is the most graphic proof that policemen at ladjf Dec 2014 #16
For God's sake do not be different in this country. Don't be black, Hispanic, Native American, or jwirr Dec 2014 #18
Or a homeless, sick white man pathansen Dec 2014 #24
Absolutely. I am technically homeless (living with a grandson and his witch of a wife) and when I jwirr Dec 2014 #26
Has anyone "modified" their fredamae Dec 2014 #20
What is the difference between this and a Gang? This is a GANG. newthinking Dec 2014 #22

Jacoby365

(517 posts)
1. Wow!
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 08:41 AM
Dec 2014

He was being completely compliant with the cop's orders, and he was still killed by that asshole pig. Whatever happened to the cops responsible for this death?

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. They were charged
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:04 AM
Dec 2014

But walked. Fired. But, as little justice as it is, city council members were recalled, the guy that called the cops was fired and some other good changes were made in Fullerton

This was very well publicized back in 2011 and was a big part of the oct22 protests.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
7. You know......
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:31 AM
Dec 2014

the older you get, when more years are behind you than in front of you, you start to wonder what is waiting for you after you pass. There will be many DAYS to come when this prays upon the mind of those cops.....is there a God and is there a judgment day of some sort.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
2. I'm against the death penalty. For these officers I would make an exception.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 08:42 AM
Dec 2014

And these religious fundamentalists claim there is a hell. Do they really think some sky god would punish this sick homeless man after death, re-punish him after the torture he endured?

These cops should pay.

WhiteTara

(31,261 posts)
8. No. General population in a federal prison.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:45 AM
Dec 2014

Then they can learn the other side.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. I understand what you are saying.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:04 AM
Dec 2014

They probably imagine themselves to be Christians.

WhiteTara

(31,261 posts)
11. Of course they do.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:23 AM
Dec 2014

I met a woman who was incensed that she wasn't allowed to wear her cross necklace in certain places...no, she couldn't name those places....but when the conversation later turned to the children from Central America fleeing violence and sanctuary her, she was furious that they were here and wanted them turned away at the border. That kind of Christian.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
12. Yep.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:32 AM
Dec 2014

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
19. I suspect those places
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:51 PM
Dec 2014

exist only in her mind...

WhiteTara

(31,261 posts)
23. That an interesting day. Not only this
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 05:35 PM
Dec 2014

nutty woman and her anti Xtian fears and then some guy told me that the President had signed over 500 executive orders. When I pointed out that was one a day for 2 years, he stared blankly. We do have a very stupid "society".

marym625

(17,997 posts)
3. I remember this
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:00 AM
Dec 2014

He was a big part of the Oct22 protest that year and caused many changes, including the recall election of a few city council members.

barbtries

(31,319 posts)
5. i can't even watch it.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:36 AM
Dec 2014

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
6. Watched a little
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:14 AM
Dec 2014

Had to shut it off. Sick as hell.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
10. I don't remember hearing about this. So sad. I wish all the victims of police brutality would
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:16 AM
Dec 2014

come together not matter what there race an develop a united front with community leaders like Rev. Al and some media types who are really on the side of the victims. We can't just sit back and allow this to continue to happen to anyone.

I hear and see a lot of comments from whites who think they are immune to this kind of treatment from law enforcement criticize Sharpton and Rev Jackson for always showing up when this stuff happens to blacks. Most of the time they are asked to show up by the families of the victims. If white victims would ask them, I am certain they would show up for them also. Jackson especially was a force for poor people, white or black, when he ran for President and as head of the Rainbow Coalition.

There is great force in numbers and society lends more credibility to charges of police brutality when whites are involved...sad but true.,

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
13. Being white didn't help this poor victim.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:34 AM
Dec 2014

Those corpulent cops took his life. They interacted with him like he was a POS. And, no charges.

We are all vulnerable to the militarized police. If we stand together, we can oppose them AND oppose racism.

 

DemandsRedPill

(65 posts)
14. had to shut it off
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:43 AM
Dec 2014

In general I have found that those who are selected to be a policeman or in many cases those who select to want to be one, are in many ways some of the most brain damaged among us.

By brain damaged I mean they lack almost no empathy for others,they live in an authoritarian myopic world and their IQ's are at best marginal.

In the past few years I've made it a point to avoid them in any way possible
I'm white and upper middle class and well educated and have the means to avoid them

God help others not so lucky

I hate to sound as a broken record but until we take a good serious look at the government and the monster it created; the largest military machine on earth that vacuums up wealth and turns it into waste through its violent authoritarian actions worldwide all will be lost and this mans needless death will simply be a footnote to the main chapters written on a daily basis in the blood of those we see as 'the other'

To paraphrase Ghandi "We can judge a country by the way it treats its animals"

"We can judge what a country itself becomes by the way its own government and military treats other countries rights as free people"

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
21. "until we take a good serious look at the government"
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:43 PM
Dec 2014

No, just the whole "tough on crime" campaign crap.

Crime is at an all time low.

BeatleBoot

(7,111 posts)
15. They yanked it from YouTube...no more sharing these heartless fucking pricks...
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:09 PM
Dec 2014

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
17. Then it should be returned to you tube and if the people who control you tube content
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:28 PM
Dec 2014

refuse, their rights to program you tube content should be immediately revoked.

And what about mainstream media? I've never seen this footage anywhere.

Unknown Beatle

(2,691 posts)
25. What do you mean they yanked it from YouTube?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 08:52 PM
Dec 2014

That video I just watched is from YouTube. As a matter of fact, if you click on the YouTube icon on the video, it will take you to the YouTube site.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
16. I've seen a lot of terrible violence but this video is the most graphic proof that policemen at
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:25 PM
Dec 2014

practicing gratuitous violence simply as a form of recreation. Did anyone notice that has the were squeezing him down on the pavement, one officer was adding his weight to the downward, fatal load of compression.

If all five of those murdering officers are not incarcerated of many years, then there is no justice in this Country.

This is the video that all Americans must see.



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. For God's sake do not be different in this country. Don't be black, Hispanic, Native American, or
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:44 PM
Dec 2014

any other brown race. Don't be disabled. Don't be homeless. In fact don't go shopping in a WalMart store in the children's toy section, don't play in the park with a gun. In fact if you are not white don't be anything.

This is not the America I grew up in and it is not an America that I can support without some very big reservations.

pathansen

(1,039 posts)
24. Or a homeless, sick white man
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 05:45 PM
Dec 2014

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. Absolutely. I am technically homeless (living with a grandson and his witch of a wife) and when I
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:10 AM
Dec 2014

say homeless I include everyone who is homeless.

I am also assuming that somewhere there must be some good police forces but it is getting harder and harder to believe that. They must start standing up against this if they exist. When I was growing up it was understood that if your friend committed a crime and you were there you were also guilty. This applies to police today.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
20. Has anyone "modified" their
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:05 PM
Dec 2014

behavior out of Fear? Don't go out after dark? Stay home more instead of going out and enjoying life-movies, dinner, shopping, walks with your dog etc?

At some point there seems there might just be an economic impact.
It's no longer a matter of "Don't do anything wrong and you have nothing to worry about".
America is getting a bad case of PTSD over these sadistic psychopaths.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
22. What is the difference between this and a Gang? This is a GANG.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 05:07 PM
Dec 2014

And not one of these officers tries to stop it.

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