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Actors of Color Get Real About What It's Like To Play a Stereotype (Original Post) Vic Tree Feb 2015 OP
there is an 80's movie about it. pre in living color. maybe wayans 1st movie. now who was the star.. pansypoo53219 Feb 2015 #1
Robert Townsend, Hollywood Shuffle CBGLuthier Feb 2015 #3
If the stuff didn't make money, this particular problem would disappear. merrily Feb 2015 #2
Yep - seems like the rule of precedent plays just as big of a role in the entertainment industry panfluteman Feb 2015 #4

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
3. Robert Townsend, Hollywood Shuffle
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:58 AM
Feb 2015

Townsend co-wrote and directed it and financed it with his credit cards. Keenen Ivory Wayans co wrote it and played a small part. Great movie.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. If the stuff didn't make money, this particular problem would disappear.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:45 AM
Feb 2015

(The same can be said of many problems, both very serious problems and not so serious ones.)

Would ending casting by "type" mean that people of various racial and ethnic heritages would continue to get jobs? Would they cast an African American woman as the girl next door that the handsome blond guy was mooning over? One would hope so, but maybe, maybe not.

We tend to think of some people as creative. But, even apart from the diversity issue, white actors have long complained that they got cast, if at all, only in one type of role, usually the one they played when they first came to the attention of the industry in a big way. Hero, villain, tough guy, muscle man, seducer, victim, goody two shoes, glamor figure, clumsy buffoon, etc. So, maybe casting directors aren't that creative. Maybe they aren't going to consider, let alone send out a casting call for, an Asian or African American actor to play an "ordinary" American.

In the old days, this might have been the kind of issue the Screen Actors Guild would have been willing to take on. But the screen writers strike a few years back resulted in the writers losing a huge amount of pay while getting next to nothing in bargaining. It also resulted in lots of TV money going to reality shows from that day to this, instead of to scripted shows. So that was a huge lesson to the entertainment industry about striking. Plus, the success of such strikes depends on big names either joining the picket lines or at least refusing to cross them. That didn't happen during the writers' strike either. Didn't even happen when liberal show hosts, like Maddow, crossed picket lines to get into the studio to air their shows.

panfluteman

(2,191 posts)
4. Yep - seems like the rule of precedent plays just as big of a role in the entertainment industry
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:51 AM
Feb 2015

as it does in our legal system. Seems like too many people prefer a pat formula that has worked before over real creativity and risk taking. You also look in terms of singers and the songs they sing - the subsequent songs released by an artist often have the same overall form and chord progression as the original big hit. Perhaps the prime example of this, back in the '70s, I believe, was Gary Puckett and the Union Gap - or as I called them, Gary Puckett and the Union F#@kits.

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