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And LESS still... forest444 Feb 2015 #1
Veterans Today is not a credible site starroute Feb 2015 #2
I wasn't familiar with it until today, but I have been familiar with the AMIA controversy for years forest444 Feb 2015 #3
Which SOME VIEW as a slight to President Obama??? panfluteman Feb 2015 #4

starroute

(12,977 posts)
2. Veterans Today is not a credible site
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:11 PM
Feb 2015

I haven't looked at the link you posted so I don't know if it's as full of nonsense as most of their stuff, but I would assumed it is.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
3. I wasn't familiar with it until today, but I have been familiar with the AMIA controversy for years
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:32 PM
Feb 2015

The story's what's important. Media talking heads have always resisted discussing any hypotheses that did not place blame for the AMIA or Embassy bombings squarely on Iran. Victims' rights groups in Argentina itself - where the incident took place - aren't so sure, and have been calling for the impeachment and prosecution of the special prosecutor for years for callous disregard of the investigation of the sake of parroting the discredited official line.

The fact remains that no evidence has been found of such involvement in 20 years (https://consortiumnews.com/2015/02/07/a-rush-to-judgment-in-argentine-bomb-case/), not by the Argentines, the U.S., Israel, or anyone else. What little "evidence" had been put up as "proof" of same had to be withdrawn for having been fabricated - including the bribery of witnesses. Articles of faith for the car-bomb believers, such as the white van and the bomb crater, have been debunked since at least 1996 - the first by forensics (who took purported pieces of said van to a lab 20 years ago, only to be told they were from 2 or 3 different cars), and the second by sheer photographic evidence.

You know, people lie, but photos do not; hundreds of photos were taken at the time by scores of different news media and individuals. They clearly show no crater, and that the blast each time was centered in the building. Moreover, both the AMIA and Embassy were located in narrow, heavily built-up streets. None of the many surrounding buildings were destroyed, as would have to happen in a car bomb in a narrow street that takes out a 7-story building. In fact only two suffered more than cosmetic damage: the small, century-old parochial school in front of the Embassy, whose roof collapsed but whose walls stood (they would have been obliterated by a car bomb); and the reinforced concrete building to the right of the AMIA, which exhibited a gaping hole inside the retaining wall shared with its ill-fated neighbor - a sure sign of an interior blast.

Witnesses lie, but scars do not. A repairman who was working under the motor of his old work truck when the blast took place. The elusive "van" would have necessarily been parked within a few feet of this poor man, and yet he survived with only the scarring on the side of his body facing the blast. This would have had to been a miracle straight out of the Old Testament, had the blast taken place on the street. His testimony was taken, but never entered into the record.

And the bomb forensics? Engineers who were commissioned to perform the very first forensic tests in both cases affirmed the obvious: that the blasts took place inside the buildings (their testimony was - you guessed it - excluded from any reports).

So where does Bibi come in? Obviously, he was not in office in 1992/94; but if these bombs were, as everything indicates, inside jobs, then it follows that the real target was Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Peace Process itself - both violently opposed by the Israeli far-right. It was they, as you know, who ultimately assassinated Prime Minister Rabin. Bibi, who was first elected to office just three months later, owes his impressive career to that - and what's more has allowed Israeli government to be hijacked by the every same elements. He would, then, have the most to lose if the AMIA files were ever declassified.

panfluteman

(2,191 posts)
4. Which SOME VIEW as a slight to President Obama???
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:42 PM
Feb 2015

Let's get real - it IS a GREAT slight to President Obama and a flouting of Presidential authority over US foreign policy! It's tantamount to treason in my book! Israel jerks the US around enough, and now renegade Republicans are also getting in on the act! This could seriously impair our national sovereignty and jeopardize the initiative, discretion and independence of US foreign policy in the Middle East, a region that is already beset by many difficult, delicate and challenging problems as it is. We don't need to screw things up by having too many cooks cooking the broth of this seething cauldron of political and military unrest.

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